71chally Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Thanks chaps, Lovely Peter R Foster photo of FGR.2 XV406 AV here More of his excellent work here, https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=40263244%40N04&view_all=1&text=Phantom FG.1 https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=40263244%40N04&view_all=1&text=Phantom FGR.2 XV470 movement card is interesting as there are photographs of it as CX with 228 markings in the period, certainly just either side of the August 1988 date, I guess a loan from the OCU again. Edited January 23, 2018 by 71chally 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainpeden Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Re. XV470 I too have pictures (and a model) of her as CX with the OCU. I think she was with 56 until the end in 1992. I'll have to check my pictures of the Phinal Photocall at Wattisham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 A close up to know what the text on the nose and intake says would be good too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainpeden Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On the assumption that Dick Ward got it right The swirly one has "THE LAST FROM BIG C", the marking above the roundel is CONINGSBY 1968 LEUCHARS 1987 And I can't make out the zap underneath the roundel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yeah I believe it was associated with the Coningsby Leuchars move, guessing 470 was the last one out?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, iainpeden said: Re. XV470 I too have pictures (and a model) of her as CX with the OCU. I think she was with 56 until the end in 1992. It was, as D with a sharkmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Ram Models has XV470 with the scroll markings as both CX of 228 OCU and AW of 43 Sqn. Dates I have are code CX in 02/87, to AW 07/88, then back to CX 01/89. This weekend I will do some trawling and try to find any other FGR.2's that served with 43 and 111 towards the end. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Not sure if this has been seen here or not, but brilliant profiles of British Phantoms by Mark Styling, there are six pages of them in all the squadron markings! http://www.markstyling.com/f_4.RAF.01.htm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfordhibby Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 What a mine of information the last couple of days has been. I've struggled to keep up with it. It's been a bit like watching a top notch tennis rally. Thanks to all concerned not only for the past two days but the whole thread in its entirety. Peter 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) More weapon stuff and a bit of What iffery John Edited January 23, 2018 by canberra kid need sorting 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eng Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Just twigged today that there are no classic Airfix pilots in this kit! Have Airfix sacked these poor chaps? Eng 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 minute ago, eng said: Just twigged today that there are no classic Airfix pilots in this kit! Have Airfix sacked these poor chaps? Eng They must still be at the OCU? John 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Martin Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 No one noticed this missing glass inspection window on the rear starboard fuselage? It is big enough to clearly see. Between the leading point of the hor stab and the normal serial position, above and aft of the 'cans' .... Pat Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Model Builder Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 There is something about Phantoms with big red, white and blue roundels on the intakes. Don't know what, but they just look so much better than later iterations. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, eng said: Just twigged today that there are no classic Airfix pilots in this kit! Have Airfix sacked these poor chaps? Eng That’s a good point especially since they provide parts to model this kit in catapult take-off mode. Now I never ever use pilots, however I did have thoughts about modelling this kit in this configuration only to find out there’s no smiling crew to use. No big issue, just a little surprising. Cheers.. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Over on Fighter Control there are a couple of postings with Phantom photos http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 52 minutes ago, Patrick Martin said: No one noticed this missing glass inspection window on the rear starboard fuselage? I didn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I never did get around to going into the Glasgow scrapyard where a lot of the Leuchars aircraft ended. Would have been nice to get something as a souvenir. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Martin Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, Scimitar said: I didn't! I would have been more than impressed with Airfix if they had noticed the window. It appears to be on all versions going back to the F-4A. Can not say I noticed it when writing books on the topic. Just received my Airfix Phantom today. Most impressed with my first fondling of the plastic - very nice. I really like the idea of the forward transparency incorporating part of the fuselage - very well done. Now how many 'cottage industry' mods and improvements are in the pipeline? Pat Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiff guy Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) "And now for something totally different " ? well maybe not totally, look at the wessex plane gaurd on the box front, would it be a HU.5 in 1974/75. Should it not be a HAS 1. if this is wrong it has totally put me off buying this kit. only joking Glenn. Edited January 23, 2018 by cardiff guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eng Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Rabbit Leader said: That’s a good point especially since they provide parts to model this kit in catapult take-off mode. Now I never ever use pilots, however I did have thoughts about modelling this kit in this configuration only to find out there’s no smiling crew to use. No big issue, just a little surprising. Cheers.. Dave That's what made me realise they weren't there, I was thinking over the options in the kit for future builds (already got this one in work!) and low and behold no-one holding onto their knees! Eng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertF Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, Scimitar said: I never did get around to going into the Glasgow scrapyard where a lot of the Leuchars aircraft ended. Would have been nice to get something as a souvenir. Now wouldn't that be a challenging subject for a diorama.... I can see the title: "Sic transit gloria mundi"....... What a sad sight! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eng Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 47 minutes ago, Scimitar said: I never did get around to going into the Glasgow scrapyard where a lot of the Leuchars aircraft ended. Would have been nice to get something as a souvenir. I remember hearing that was where they ended up, 10 mins from where we live, and like yourself wished I'd asked to go and see if I could have a souvenir 😢 Eng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Leader Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Patrick Martin Penny drop moment time!! Just realised your the same Patrick Martin who penned the Double Ugly Phantom books. I’ve got the two Spey Phantom bibles in my private aero library and just want to say thanks for putting these excellent books together. I’m not quite sure if they are still readily available, however I would think that a re-print to coincide with this latest kit would be quite timely. For those out there who do not own this set, they are well worth having. Cheers and thanks.. Dave 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzie Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Its at times like this that i wish that my days spent on the fence at Leuchars were covered by more comprehensive jottings on what i was looking at. Regarding the 2 43 sqn FGR2s, i seem to remember XV470 as working out of 111 more often than not during my frequent visits. My recollection is that 111 had an FGR2 in 43 sqn marks for longer than is documented for XV470 so can anyone confirm how long XV406 was in 43 marks for. Arabest, Geoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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