leyreynolds Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I'm looking for photo's or artwork for two aircraft - G-ADEP and G-ADMI (later possibly F-APEL). Also what was the colour of Jean Batten's aircraft? Ley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Both these aircraft are listed in David Gearings book. G-ADEP has a photo and I would hazard that it was overall Percival Blue with Silver letters. It ended up in Spain until 1948. G-ADMI Also went to Spain via France as F-APEI (not L). It too survived until after WW.2 No Illustration i'm afraid. G-ADPR was I believe always Silver overall with outline Black letters (presumably to save weight) apart from it's impressment days in camouflage as AX866. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Hi Perhaps you know it already - this post-war (SCW) photo od Spanish one Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leyreynolds Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 Thanks for the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo NZ Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Jean Batten's Mew Gull was hanging in Auckland Airport's International terminal. I didn't see it when I went through last week - it's head down to get through the interminable duty free these days... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Ramsden Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 G-ADMI is recorded as being turquoise blue by the newspapers in the Isle of Man when it took part in the 1936 air races. I assume this is Percival blue. A very poor photo in our archives shows it having a dark cheat line and dark lettering. I don't use any photo hosting sites but if you PM me with your email address I'll send you a copy of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-USB Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 19 hours ago, Ivor Ramsden said: G-ADMI is recorded as being turquoise blue by the newspapers in the Isle of Man when it took part in the 1936 air races. I assume this is Percival blue. I believe the 'Percival Blue' is a turquoise color. Research done by someone I trust gives turquoise and silver as the standard factory colors for the Gull. Percival used Titanine brand paints and an original 1935 color chart from the company shows a turquoise which may be what was used. As an aside, Kingsford Smith's Gull Four 'Miss Southern cross' was painted the standard turquoise and silver and not his usual dark blue color as is often assumed. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k5054nz Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 5:00 PM, Jo NZ said: Jean Batten's Mew Gull was hanging in Auckland Airport's International terminal. I didn't see it when I went through last week - it's head down to get through the interminable duty free these days... It's a Gull Six, a Mew is a much smaller single-seater. I don't think there's a KFC anywhere else in the world where you can sit and look at a long-distance recordbreaker. G-ADPR, Jean's machine, has sometimed been described as having dark green registration letters. My Omega 1/72 kit decals has black. A Proctor I here has been restored to Vega configuration and has markings closely based on it but I haven't actually taken photos of the letters close up: 869DA76F-3B03-4525-946C-5EA53E85DA50_zpslducnjwz by Zac Yates, on Flickr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Yes, Sorry but my reference to Percival Blue was assuming that folk would know the standard Percival House colour was Turquoise Blue fuselage with Silver flying surfaces. The fuselage letters were Silver. I've just found some more pictures of Jean Batten's Gull VI in pre-war colours with a solid dark coloured registration which isn't dark enough for Black. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Holden Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I think the dust jacket of Silvester's Percival book is intended to be an accurate representation of the turquoise colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Hi Roger, Turquoise is one of those colours which can move towards the Green or the Blue. The Sylvester book is decidedly on the Green side. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leyreynolds Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Is there any modelling paint colour that is close to this turquoise please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-USB Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 18 hours ago, leyreynolds said: Is there any modelling paint colour that is close to this turquoise please? When Im back at home , early next week, I'll match the original Titanine 'Turquoise Blue' color chip to my FS, BS and RAL charts and post a match. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixII Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Hi Ley, don't know if this is of any use, purports to be Titanine 1935 paint chart, No.2 top left. http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/images/bsc318c1931wm_large.jpg my guess would be Vallejo, but which one??? Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-USB Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 hour ago, PhoenixII said: Hi Ley, don't know if this is of any use, purports to be Titanine 1935 paint chart, No.2 top left. http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/images/bsc318c1931wm_large.jpg my guess would be Vallejo, but which one??? Paul This is not a Titanine specific color chart but a 1931 British Standard Colours 318C color chart... http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/bsc1931wm_1.htm The "No 2 Turquoise Blue" does appear to be slightly similar to my 1935 Titanine "Turquoise Blue--Shade No. TE 140" color chip. I'll have a match for the Titanine color chip next week, Tuesday I hope, when I return home from a trip. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leyreynolds Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 Thanks for the extra info'. Ley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Aero Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 This is a Proctor in Turquoise Blue I took at Cranfield or Sywell years ago. The colour of the print tho faded is how I remember it. John 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH-USB Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 12:12 PM, VH-USB said: I'll have a match for the Titanine color chip next week, Tuesday I hope, when I return home from a trip. Tim I've matched my original 1935 Titanine 'Turquoise Blue-Shade No. TE 140' color chip to the US Federal Standards and the British Standards color chips. Here are the matches... FS14272 - A near perfect match. BS14C37 Green - About 10-15% too dark, needs to be lightened for a close match. Not being a current model builder I can't provide any modeling paint matches. Sorry. Hope this is of help. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratchbuilder Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Any further movement on this colour topic, gents? Like a Zero paint match or even a Vallejo, if we must! I am a Percival fan having had my first ever flight in a Prentice at Southend airport 48 years ago! Cheers, Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Holden Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Scratchbuilder said: Any further movement on this colour topic, gents? Like a Zero paint match or even a Vallejo, if we must! If you are talking model car paints, then Leytonhouse Turquoise might be a starting point. But it's too vivid and would need a lot of white and maybe some yellow adding. Whatever, you will be stuck with mixing as there's no model paint which is anywhere close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratchbuilder Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Thanks, Roger, but damn, as I have an inability with colours. I have to be able to buy them as they should be because when I mix they all turn out like what we habitues of boat yards call Ship brown! Unlike light, mixing colours always makes a kind of browny peuce colour depending on how much red is in there. I don't actually like turquoise anyway really! So that saves me the hassle. Pity it's not a known aircraft colour, but I think Zero are indeed more car than aircraft. I prefer a pale blue if I'm honest! Cheers, Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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