fatfingers Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, Martin T said: Not being an armour modeller, this is an interesting thread to follow to see how it's done. Sometimes tempted by small scale armour, but then I look at the stash and the model railway stuff, and I think there is enough to be going on with. Thanks Martin. If you try one you'll be hooked! Regards. Steve 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Im doing this because i was hoping to restore my armor mojo. 👍 It worked im back. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I have brief spells at both armour and ships and this GB is really quiet enjoyable to be part of my first major GB Nice work so far like the stowage and fixing points for the tracks beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) How do chaps. This evening I have mostly been painting! Primer coat of Vallejo black sprayed through a 0.4 needle. This was a bit temperamental but it ended up ok... This was left to dry for a good while and then Tamiya Olive Drab was misted on. The OD I used is the 'old recipe' in a large jar with a Beatties label on it! It's nearly gone now though Sprayed beautifully through my H&S Evolution with a 0.2 needle. The tracks and a few other bits got a coat of Tamiya Dark Iron. After tea I then opened up a bottle of AK Real Colour Faded Olive Drab and this was misted in a cloudy pattern over the top of the hull and turret etc. This again sprayed lovely and really lifted the colour up. Then I had a thought..... British Sherman's were generally left in the original Olive Drab unless they had been given a major overhaul or converted (Firefly etc) With this in mind I decided that the turret stowage box and other added bits would in fact be painted in SCC15 Olive Drab. The box was masked off and sprayed with AK Real Colour SCC 15 British Olive Drab. I may be wrong regarding this but I quite like it and the effect is quite subtle. The strip on the front and also the spare track brackets were brush painted in this colour too. This is where she stands when I called it a night. Detail painting of tools and tyres next and then decals. Now..... I've not used dry rub before so it should be fun! Do they need to go down on a gloss coat first? Comments and suggestions welcome. Regards, Steve Edited January 6, 2018 by fatfingers Imgur still being a prat!!!! 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Nice going Steve, she's looking sharp with a coat of paint on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Ozzy said: Nice going Steve, she's looking sharp with a coat of paint on. Thanks Ozzy. Really comes to life with a bit of colour. Suits Olive Drab really well. Regards, Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Sweet paint job steve, do you mix those ak paints with laquer thinners? Regards Glynn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyGair Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Who cares if you're wrong about colour(s) Steve, and who can argue for certain it's wrong? looks brill to me. After having returned to modelling the last couple of years I'm astounded at the detail in the Dragon Shermans I have bought, especially the cast surface effect. Watching with interest along with all the other builds on here. Davey. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevej60 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Excellent progress Steve,should be at the paint stage in no time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Re the rub down decals, I have not used any for years, but I have a vague memory of glossing the paintwork on the grounds that rubbing the decals down could damage the paintwork, or at least leave marks. The rub down decals I was using were thin and fragile and I do not know what they are like today. The big issue I had with them is that they have to be in exactly the right place as once committed to rubbing them down they cannot be moved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbasket Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I've used rub down decals a few times (SKP in particular), and the recommendation is to apply them to a matt surface. Providing you get them in the correct place, they shouldn't b a problem.......BUT.......you don't get a second chance! Use an old ball point pen (one that doesn't write), and gently rub them down. Peel the backing sheet off very carefully as sometimes the decal is still stuck to it. Once the backing sheet is removed, lightly rub with something like a cotton wool bud over it and then seal it in with a coat of varnish. John. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSTON Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Steve. OUTSTANDING Job. looking EXCEPTIONALLY SUPERB Keep it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadbear Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Outstanding job on "Charmer" The choice of overall OD and added SCC.15 is spot on for this scheme. You have done well with this kit. Definately matt surface for the Archer Dry Transfers. Take a look at their website. Plenty of hints and tips on there for the use of their transfers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 That really does look impressive with the paint on Steve! Very nicely done! Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Nice touch on the stowage box, little details like that really give a model character and that can make all the difference in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 iwm photo b5471 taken on 13th june at brevilles -les -monts shows 3 13th 18th hussars shermans still with intact wadeing trunks and waterproofing around mantlet one is 71 carole the other 2 harder to see names or numbers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) How do chaps, Many thanks for all the comments. Much appreciated On 06/01/2018 at 11:04 PM, Hewy said: Sweet paint job steve, do you mix those ak paints with laquer thinners? Regards Glynn Aye up Hewy, The AK was sprayed thinned with their own brand thinner. Smells very much like Tamiya X20A. It says in all the product blurb that it's 'high compatibility' so I assume it can be used with Tamiya and such like Since last week when I thundered ahead with the build, things have slowed quite a bit due to being back at work after last week off Managed an hour in the shed earlier and did a bit of detail painting on the tools and running gear. Now.... A couple of questions. Were the return rollers rubber or steel and should they be the same colour of the tyres or left in olive drab? I've seen quite a few Sherman's over the years but they were in museum's and everything was painted olive drab including the tyres! All the colour pics that I've found on t'interweb have been of an angle where you can't see the rollers Also, were the T49 tracks all steel without the inner rubber pads? Just waiting on some resin stowage being delivered for the rear deck then it will be time for the decals. More to follow soon. Regards, Steve Edited January 9, 2018 by fatfingers 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Nice going Steve, the return rollers were steel after a few miles the paint would have been rubbed off, I've found this link In regards to your track question. http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/tracks/vvss_tracks.html 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ozzy said: Nice going Steve, the return rollers were steel after a few miles the paint would have been rubbed off, I've found this link In regards to your track question. http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/tracks/vvss_tracks.html Cheers Ozzy! Both questions answered. Great link too Regards, Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wimbledon99 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Looked great without colour, looks brilliant with! Coming together nicely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Another useful page for running gear info: http://www.theshermantank.com/about/sherman-suspension-and-tracks-the-page-an-easy-to-find-place-for-sherman-suspension-info/the-vertical-volute-suspension-page-both-early-and-late-vvss-will-be-covered/ I'd always assumed there was a tyre on some variants, but looks like it was actually a steel spacer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Hi Steve. Excellent work on the tools and running gear. Looking very good. Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badder Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 19 hours ago, Ozzy said: the return rollers were steel after a few miles the paint would have been rubbed off, Tamiya say that my Easy Eight had rubber tyres on all but the sprocket wheels. But I have seen return rollers, and idlers that are all steel. I guess the question as to whether they had rubber tyres or not depends.... This one appears to have rubber tyres on the return rollers and the idler. I can't see anyone painting them black for the hell of it. Rearguards, Badder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbasket Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Badder said: Tamiya say that my Easy Eight had rubber tyres on all but the sprocket wheels. But I have seen return rollers, and idlers that are all steel. I guess the question as to whether they had rubber tyres or not depends.... This one appears to have rubber tyres on the return rollers and the idler. I can't see anyone painting them black for the hell of it. On an HVSS suspension, the six single and four double return rollers had rubber tyres as did the idler. Sgt will correct me if I'm wrong here, but as far as I know, it was only on VVSS units that the idler had no tyre. John. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badder Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) Great work btw Steve. I'm liking the colour! Rearguards, Badder Edited January 10, 2018 by Badder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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