Stathis Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, NazarovVladimir said: So the Behemoth does not have a gray color. Only the lower surfaces are painted in gray. The very dark drab is a grey. I searched a lot and in Gunze paints, it's a grey. So, I am not wrong. They are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathis Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Also look at the FS code. I can't find the instructions. The FS code they suggest, refers to a Grey in Gunze paints. It's not my fault. Give me a photo of the real plane, with the decals I choosed and I will repaint it again. No problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazarovVladimir Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, Stathis said: The very dark drab is a grey. I searched a lot and in Gunze paints, it's a grey. So, I am not wrong. They are. In the decol instructions, Behemoth indicates three colors. 1. Flat Field Green 2. Flat Light Brawn 3. Flat Very Dark Drab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathis Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, NazarovVladimir said: In the decol instructions, Behemoth indicates three colors. 1. Flat Field Green 2. Flat Light Brawn 3. Flat Very Dark Drab Yes, it does. What brand makes a dark drab? What is the FS code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazarovVladimir Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stathis said: Also look at the FS code. I can't find the instructions. The FS code they suggest, refers to a Grey in Gunze paints. It's not my fault. Give me a photo of the real plane, with the decals I choosed and I will repaint it again. No problem. The name of the color was indicated correctly, but the numbering for the FS was confused. I showed pictures of your plane above, it's clear how the colors were at the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazarovVladimir Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stathis said: Yes, it does. What brand makes a dark drab? What is the FS code? Federal Standart http://www.federalstandardcolor.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathis Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, NazarovVladimir said: The name of the color was indicated correctly, but the numbering for the FS was confused. I showed pictures of your plane above, it's clear how the colors were at the plane. If the FS was confused, then it's not my fault. Tell me the correct number in Gunze paints and I will overpaint it. No problem, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPMS19 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 30 minutes ago, Stathis said: Yes, it does. What brand makes a dark drab? What is the FS code? - If I can help, try the AKAN paint range...There is a wide range of Soviet/russian colors in which you can find all what you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathis Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, IPMS19 said: - If I can help, try the AKAN paint range...There is a wide range of Soviet/russian colors in which you can find all what you want Thanks! Do they have a six-paint pack for MiG-25? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPMS19 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Stathis said: Thanks! Do they have a six-paint pack for MiG-25? - No, as camouflaged 25 are exception compared to other machines but yuo may fiind what you need using 6 pack of other camouflaged combat aircraft , the planes concerned are indicated on the tinlets in Russian on one side and translated on the other so you can choose the convinient color for the machine you want to built. - I use this method for my models together with color pictures of the real thing study, keeping in mind that there are many factor which make differences with the real color and what is translated on the photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathis Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, IPMS19 said: - No, as camouflaged 25 are exception compared to other machines but yuo may fiind what you need using 6 pack of camouflaged combat aircraft , the planes concerned are indicated on the tinlets in Russian on one side and translated on the other so you can choose the convinient color for the machine you want to built. - I use this method together with color pictures of the real thing, keeping in mind that there are many factor which make differences with the real color and what is translated on the photos So, the point is that our MiG-25 had two greens over the sand colour, right? If so, I can ask a friend that built a MiG-21 to provide me with a dark green colour that he used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPMS19 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 24 minutes ago, Stathis said: So, the point is that our MiG-25 had two greens over the sand colour, right? If so, I can ask a friend that built a MiG-21 to provide me with a dark green colour that he used. - My 25 depicts the rather weathered bort 57 you can see on the photos Vladimir posted here - The colors indicated on the decal sheet are those of the recently painted Bort 57 , the operational life of the machine has done the transformation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathis Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, IPMS19 said: - My 25 depicts the rather weathered bort 57 you can see on the photos Vladimir posted here - The colors indicated on the decal sheet are those of the recently painted Bort 57 , the operational life of the machine has done the transformation Bort 57 was repainted. Is it possible to have been repainted in different colours than Bort 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPMS19 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, Stathis said: Bort 57 was repainted. Is it possible to have been repainted in different colours than Bort 20? - Probably.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazarovVladimir Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 On 24.12.2017 at 7:07 PM, Stathis said: Bort 57 was repainted. Is it possible to have been repainted in different colours than Bort 20? It was not repainted. In place of the old symbols, a new one was applied, before it was painted with gray paint. A few years later, these places were repainted again, as you can see in this photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazarovVladimir Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 On 24.12.2017 at 7:04 PM, IPMS19 said: - My 25 depicts the rather weathered bort 57 you can see on the photos Vladimir posted here - The colors indicated on the decal sheet are those of the recently painted Bort 57 , the operational life of the machine has done the transformation This photo was taken on the same day, at Siversky airport, in September 2005. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPMS19 Posted December 26, 2017 Author Share Posted December 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, NazarovVladimir said: This photo was taken on the same day, at Siversky airport, in September 2005. 25 minutes ago, NazarovVladimir said: It was not repainted. In place of the old symbols, a new one was applied, before it was painted with gray paint. A few years later, these places were repainted again, as you can see in this photo. - Your comments are very precious to me, I've tried to be the closest as possible of the most weathered looking machine only by studiyng and interprating the photos I have at my disposal according to what I thiought they could be with the help of AKAN paints references , I think I'm not too far from it but I'm not a true specialist , I've done my job as well as ,I could I cannot tell more but I will be very happy to have your advice that will help me for my future buildings.... Mogna Spassiba Vlody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NazarovVladimir Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 16 minutes ago, IPMS19 said: - Your comments are very precious to me, I've tried to be the closest as possible of the most weathered looking machine only by studiyng and interprating the photos I have at my disposal according to what I thiought they could be with the help of AKAN paints references , I think I'm not too far from it but I'm not a true specialist , I've done my job as well as ,I could I cannot tell more but I will be very happy to have your advice that will help me for my future buildings.... Mogna Spassiba Vlody I looked at photos of your model .. Personally I really liked the colors and the camouflage scheme. Very decent result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathis Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I have ordered the Dark Green 63013. I will try to repaint the grey on my plane and I won't do anything else. I am frustrated with Begemot's error because I have to buy the decals again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPMS19 Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Stathis said: I have ordered the Dark Green 63013. I will try to repaint the grey on my plane and I won't do anything else. I am frustrated with Begemot's error because I have to buy the decals again... -The job is risky as you have a though masking job around the flush antennas on the fins and elsewhere , yet, if you don't want to buy another begemot decals sheet either you try another machine suitable for the paint at your disposal and another Begemot scheme or try some masking on the settled decals with a liquid mask to protect them, third solution you live with your model as it is, it is not bad at all, you can be proud of it ,any way, good luck my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathis Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 On 27/12/2017 at 8:53 PM, IPMS19 said: -The job is risky as you have a though masking job around the flush antennas on the fins and elsewhere , yet, if you don't want to buy another begemot decals sheet either you try another machine suitable for the paint at your disposal and another Begemot scheme or try some masking on the settled decals with a liquid mask to protect them, third solution you live with your model as it is, it is not bad at all, you can be proud of it ,any way, good luck my friend Thank you! I try to be historically correct. It's sad for me to have a model historically wrong not because of my fault. And it's a lot of wirk to built another one. So the liquid mask looks like a good solution. Good luck with your build! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteo44 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Great job, I like the camouflages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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