Ex-FAAWAFU Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Definitely worth trying AlleyCat; always exceedingly helpful in my experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 What Crisp says, and definitely come back and tell us what they say/do about it That is just scrap resin in my opinion but don't flush it down the toilet huh 😥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 No way that a manufacturer can stand over work of that quality Massimo - a clear case for for replacement resin if ever. Your diligence and skill on the wingfold continue to enthrall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 Hi everybody, last night (....well...it was this morning!) ... i sent an Email to Alleycat, and I'm sure they'll find a sopution for my nose cone! At the moment I'll stay focused on my Gannet. Anyway this morning at 2AM, before going to bed , I got a reminder from Ebay about something I had looked for in the recent past and was now avliable....this!!! The price was around 9 US$ but I had to spend another 35 for delivery...so I went to bed!!! This morning I checked again nd there was another one at the price of...19,99Euros +...4,50 for transport!!! So I got it!!! Yesterday I also decided to go on with the Italery Wessex, as I found one for a reasonable price. I might purchase a Frog exemple later from Hannants, but I don't think it'll be required. I'll do my bestto correct it. I had a quite busy morning, but I'll find some time to do some Gannetting this afternoon or, at the worst, tonight. See you soon! Massimo 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 10:52 PM, AdrianMF said: I'm totally confused about mats now... Regards, Adrian It will come to you, in the night! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Massimo I am sure you will be fine with the Italeri thing You are aware of its drawbacks and are going to give us a treat with it, I'm sure Good to have a nice book, that looks a beauty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hi mates, Yesterday went quickly and there wasn't any time for modelling. My Treasure found lots of nice little jobs for me to do as she thought i was getting bored for too much Gannetting.I love testing old crayons to see if they still work!!! On my hand there are two bits I did and then I realized they're fitted to the inside section of the wing. This folding area is much moe complicated thanthe outside one as, in addition tothe folding system,there are many levers, rods and cylinders for the flaps' and ailerons' movement. I then added hinges and some more detail to the middle sections' outside. Some parts were really truicky and I had to make some more , as I lost or broke some.Not much more to be said, just trying to replicate what's in James' pictures. The two sides of the wing's middle section. And finally a view of all the detail added up to now to the wings' folding system. Tonight I'll watch a movie!!! Good night!!! Massimo 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJP Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Beautiful delicate scratch building on those wing folds Massimo CJP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 You deserve a Noble Prize for modelmaking Massimo Inticate and believable and accurate, what more could one ask? magnificent 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, massimo said: Massimo Amazing work, I assume that they are the two 'A' frames that the two hydraulic pistons act on in the stub wing fold area? That inboard stub-wing fold is without a doubt a complicated area, so many angles and and facets to deal with! Gannet AEW.3 inboard wingfold by James Thomas, on Flickr Edited January 5, 2018 by 71chally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, 71chally said: Amazing work, I assume that they are the two 'A' frames that the two hydraulic pistons act on in the stub wing fold area? That inboard stub-wing fold is without a doubt a complicated area, so many angles and and facets to deal with! Gannet AEW.3 inboard wingfold by James Thomas, on Flickr this picture is a little "unforgiving"!!! Looking at it , you'd like to run away!!! I'll have to study the subject before concentrating on the inner wing sections, as there's a lot of stuff in there!!! Spoiler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJP Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 That photo of the inner wing fold is daunting but judging by your work so far you will replicate it very nicely - I wonder if it would be worth considering disguising some brass strip and/or wire into the inner wing fold mechanism to add strength? - of course once you do set up the wing folds you will also have the brace between the inner wing panel and the fuselage and the long red vertical tubular brace from the outer panel to the centre section to give more strength. CJP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 hours ago, perdu said: You deserve a Noble Prize for modelmaking Massimo Inticate and believable and accurate, what more could one ask? magnificent Agreed 100%!! You are doing an incredibly good job on those wing folds, Massimo You are the plasticard king! Ciao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FZ6 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Hi Massimo, My Jaguar Wheel wells have stalled too at the moment so I understand. Loving the Ark Royal theme though. I have the Model alliance Ark Royal decal sheet and a few kits to do an Ark Royal Air Wing at some stage so will follow this. Loving the progress so far. Have you seen the Airfix Magazine from a couple of months ago with the new Airfix Phantom on the cover? It has plans for the catapult deck section of Ark Royal in 1:72 and a build article. I bought the magazine and then got a free copy at Telford so I have a spare copy if it could be of use. Regards, Mark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 14 hours ago, massimo said: Looking at it , you'd like to run away!!! You will not though as we will track you down ! Those wings look amazing at this stage so the finished article will be beyond words. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 17 hours ago, CJP said: I wonder if it would be worth considering disguising some brass strip and/or wire into the inner wing fold mechanism to add strength? - of course once you do set up the wing folds you will also have the brace between the inner wing panel and the fuselage and the long red vertical tubular brace from the outer panel to the centre section to give more strength. Before starting adding detail to this section, I considered this aspect and, in addition to the hinges (which are already quite precise and can hold the outer sections together with the middle ones)... ...I've drilled a couple of holes for the the braces both on the wings and on the fuselage halves.The braces will be the main point of strength to sustain the weight of the wing folded sections. Once these points are strongly holding, the hinges and the red bars will do the rest. I might even drill another couple of holes by the main folding's fulcrum, in a position where they aren't visible and thus have a second point of strength.I could even think about removing the wings for transport...but i shoud find a waay to make some quick release joints for the cables and pipes... Anyway I've removed the top panels on the inner sections to allow the folding and filed the wheel bays' side wall thickness. Another thing to do before concentrating on the inner wingfold is the wheel bays' detailling, to be carried out before glueing the wings' inner sections' haves. This work starts from the fuselage, as the inner sidewall are moulded onto the halves. Having seen some pictures of the port bay , ( I've learned, haven't I? ) I had drilled two holes on each one, to fit some plumbing. Then I saw a picture of the starboard bay(I've learned, haven't I? )... ...so I filled the holes and sanded the side smooth, before replicating the inner detail. That's it for now. 14 hours ago, FZ6 said: Have you seen the Airfix Magazine from a couple of months ago with the new Airfix Phantom on the cover? It has plans for the catapult deck section of Ark Royal in 1:72 and a build article. I bought the magazine and then got a free copy at Telford so I have a spare copy if it could be of use. Mark I've got the article and that's what I have in mind for my Phantom, when the time will come! Ciao Massimo 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 There has been some cracking work going on here, its even getting me a bit interested in getting back to the bench myself. Martian 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 That is some very excellent work in the bays Massimo, nice to see our alien is still watching too Missed you lately Martian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 More superb detailing Massimo! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJP Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 hours ago, massimo said: ...I've drilled a couple of holes for the the braces both on the wings and on the fuselage halves.The braces will be the main point of strength to sustain the weight of the wing folded sections. Once these points are strongly holding, the hinges and the red bars will do the rest. I might even drill another couple of holes by the main folding's fulcrum, in a position where they aren't visible and thus have a second point of strength.I could even think about removing the wings for transport...but i shoud find a waay to make some quick release joints for the cables and pipes... Brilliant - I think what you have planned for the wing fold will be strong although the idea of making the wings removable sounds scary - the Ark Royal's last cruise is shaping up to be an interesting series of builds CJP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Martian Hale said: There has been some cracking work going on here, its even getting me a bit interested in getting back to the bench myself. Martian Long time no see!!! Nice to hear from our alien friend!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 Small update before going to bed: I glued some locating blocks to the starbord fuselage half to help keeping the wing in place.I still don't know how I'll procede...I may decide to glue the top half first, paint the wheel bay and glue the bottom half and then glue the bottom half.Only then I would be ready to go on with the wing folding system...I'll see... I added some more detail to the wheel bay ... This is what you can see from outside , once the wing halves are glued. And finally the wing top section in position. Good night Massimo 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I think your planned sequence makes sense. This is becoming more and more interesting Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, giemme said: I think your planned sequence makes sense. This is becoming more and more interesting Ciao The problem is I'm going backwards!!! Buona notte!!! Edited January 7, 2018 by massimo2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Nice detail in those wheel wells. It looks as though your solution for making sure the wing is secure should work nicely. If not, you could always add a solid end to the inner wing, then drill both it and the fuselage to accept a pin of some sort. Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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