MarkSH Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Hi All, Just a quick question and apologies if this has been asked before. Are there any options for building a Soyuz launch vehicle in 1/144th. I'm hoping to have one to display alongside a Saturn V in the same scale. I've seen examples of 1/72 kits (Mach2) but they're too big and overpriced from what I've heard. the only thing I've seen in 1/144 is for early Vostok vehicles. Any thoughts? Cheers, MSH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) The Airfix "Vostok" kit (1/144) has always contained a Soyuz option. It's very old now (1970) and has some serious accuracy issues (the strap on boosters aren't "flared" enough, for example). However, it's still worth building, especially if you just want it really as a "comparison" device to show how big the Saturn V was. I bought a more modern kit (Russian - I think) of the Soyuz type booster at SMW a couple of years ago. I can't recall who the manufacturer was but I think it is more accurate than the Airfix offering. This is it - MSD. Edited November 15, 2017 by Eric Mc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSH Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 Thanks for the info Eric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) New Ware do whole range of Soyuz launch vehicles. http://mek.kosmo.cz/newware/index.htm#nw113 Cutting Edge in thier lift off series did a whole raft of Vostok/Soyuz launch vehicles, which are regarded as the best in 1/144, long out of production I'm afraid. I'm glad I bagged the set when they were around. http://www.internetmodeler.com/2003/august/first-looks/celo_r-7kits.htm http://www.kitreview.com/reviews/liftoffpreviewbg_1.htm http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/builds/ce/build_celo_ss-6.shtml Thomo. Edited November 19, 2017 by The Tomohawk Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 15/11/2017 at 13:29, Eric Mc said: I bought a more modern kit (Russian - I think) of the Soyuz type booster at SMW a couple of years ago. I can't recall who the manufacturer was but I think it is more accurate than the Airfix offering. This is it - MSD. This is the old Apex kit with an added sprue, its certianly not issue free - but, a slight advancement on venerable Airfix kit. Thomo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 I had a feeling it wasn't "brand new". The boxing I bought claimed to depict the launcher as used for Helen Sharman's flight in 1992. Unfortunately, it contained no decals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Eric Mc said: I had a feeling it wasn't "brand new". The boxing I bought claimed to depict the launcher as used for Helen Sharman's flight in 1992. Unfortunately, it contained no decals. You dodged a bullet being sans decals, they were brittle and shattered on contact with water. This kit has been around the block block: Apex> Maquette> MSD and a few inbetween. I believe its generally underscale and has some shape issues too. Thomo. Edited November 19, 2017 by The Tomohawk Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Apart from the New Ware resin kits, are there any decent injection moulded R7/Soyuz rockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Slightly off scale at 1:150 is this Soyuz, Rocket and train transporter which is due out Qtr 1 2018 Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Eric Mc said: Apart from the New Ware resin kits, are there any decent injection moulded R7/Soyuz rockets? Nope. One has to go New Ware, Cutting Edge or RealSpace for accuracy. Thomo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Oh well. I'll have to make do with what I've got at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSH Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 Thanks for all the comments; Interesting, you would expect it to be a more visited subject given its longevity and current status as almost the only viable launch vehicle. How much re-work is generally required to accurately depict the vehicle using the MSD kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 It is certainly not the only viable launch vehicle. It happens to be the one being used for manned launches to the space station at the moment but the Chinese use their own launcher for manned missions and pretty soon Atlas and Falcon will start carrying manned spacecraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSH Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 I did say 'almost' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I'd say go for "NewWare", probably add LVM Photo etched parts. You may end-up with this beauty (as seen in Telford a year ago): I have built a Cutting Edge a few years back, I would not search for it as it is not only hard to find but also inferior to NewWare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSH Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 I remember see that and thinking it was well outside my abilities then.....nothing has changed in that respect, but it was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Some interesting things to consider: http://mek.kosmo.cz/newware/faq r7 c.htm That probably covers all "what R7 kit" questions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I wonder how much that Soyuz model cost the builder when all the components are taken into account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSH Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 The New Ware kit is obviously a lot more accurate, but I can't justify that kind of dosh on one kit, I think the MSD offering is the best option for me at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 hours ago, MarkSH said: The New Ware kit is obviously a lot more accurate, but I can't justify that kind of dosh on one kit, I think the MSD offering is the best option for me at the moment. If you are bothered by the accuracy then may I suggest a 'fudge'? Why not have it horizontal on it's rail wagon? I'm sure someone somewhere can advise on N Gauge rolling stock. The different perspective will minimise the errors due to viewing angle. Just a thought. I missed Telford last year but my mate took several pictures of that Soyuz and had us guessing the scale. I was certain it was 72nd. Awesome model and well deserved winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) On 21/11/2017 at 18:04, SleeperService said: I was certain it was 72nd. Awesome model and well deserved winner. It is the New Ware 1/144 kit with the LVM launch gantry. Thomo. Edited November 23, 2017 by The Tomohawk Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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