Courageous Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Those dudes look 'almless'... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 4 hours ago, CedB said: Out tonight for a triple bill of contemporary dance. I know. Not really my thing S'posing, just s'posing you actually liked it Ced? You're flirting with danger there if you ask me old chap. 2 hours ago, perdu said: Hmm if I had flexible knees I could enjoy learning the routines Picturing the BM Morris troupe debuting at Telford next year. Files held proudly aloft... 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 32 minutes ago, TheBaron said: Files held proudly aloft... Must go to Specsavers - I read flies held proudly aloft.... Nice intercoms Ced - and glad you didn't have to amputate your feet....!! Keith 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Bloke done good. The office looks great with what you had to cope with. you are edging me closer to building my first spit in years. Johnny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malpaso Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Too late now, but comparison of the two floor plates with that in an ordinary single-seater AZ might provide enlightenment! Obviously you would have one floating around your stash. On mine I just found the pair of cockpit assemblies was all a bit of a house of cards until finally clamped into the fuselage. Look forward to seeing the airframe come together now. Personally I find the cockpit phase a bit of a chore, and likely where a kit can get set aside for a while, as apart from Eduard, any detailing provided by the manufacturers either doesn't fit itself, messes up alignment of the rest of the plane or is all too flakey to hold together for long. What was wrong with just gluing the pilot to a bar across the cockpit anyway, he's all you can generally see? Cheers Will 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 17 hours ago, hendie said: sounds like you are encountering the same issues I am having with the Fly kit Ced. It's amazing what a difference some form of positive location feature makes. It certainly looks like you are bringing it together though - nice work Thanks Hendie, really appreciated. I've just finished looking at your jaw-dropping gearboxes and the temptation to get soldering is getting stronger... 16 hours ago, giemme said: Nice crew and cockpit, there! Ciao Thanks Giorgio 15 hours ago, perdu said: Well I dunno Incest? Nobody in my family even remotely fanciable, but morris dancing? Hmm if I had flexible knees I could enjoy learning the routines as long as no actual performances were to be done in public I think I'm getting even more ocd-istic in my dotage Dance?? Madame I'd be delighted, can somebody mind this zimmer for me please? MiniCed and his codriver are looking beekneesey in the extreme Bravo Mon brave Thanks Bill I have to admit I have done Morris dancing at junior school. I'll still give the other thing a miss though. 13 hours ago, Courageous said: Those dudes look 'almless'... Thanks Stuart - 'armless'? Only until I get the fuselage trimmed up and ready to close, then they'll have their arms posed. 13 hours ago, TheBaron said: S'posing, just s'posing you actually liked it Ced? You're flirting with danger there if you ask me old chap. Picturing the BM Morris troupe debuting at Telford next year. Files held proudly aloft... Waving their hankies... 'Sword' dancing was a bit more manly I have to admit but hey, these ancient fertility rites have to be continued otherwise who knows what'll go wrong 12 hours ago, keefr22 said: Must go to Specsavers - I read flies held proudly aloft.... Nice intercoms Ced - and glad you didn't have to amputate your feet....!! Keith Thanks Keith 2 hours ago, The Spadgent said: Bloke done good. The office looks great with what you had to cope with. you are edging me closer to building my first spit in years. Johnny Hi Johnny - go on, you know you want to! Just make sure it's a new Airfix, or an Eduard kit... you don't need the pain 1 hour ago, malpaso said: Too late now, but comparison of the two floor plates with that in an ordinary single-seater AZ might provide enlightenment! Obviously you would have one floating around your stash. On mine I just found the pair of cockpit assemblies was all a bit of a house of cards until finally clamped into the fuselage. Look forward to seeing the airframe come together now. Personally I find the cockpit phase a bit of a chore, and likely where a kit can get set aside for a while, as apart from Eduard, any detailing provided by the manufacturers either doesn't fit itself, messes up alignment of the rest of the plane or is all too flakey to hold together for long. What was wrong with just gluing the pilot to a bar across the cockpit anyway, he's all you can generally see? Cheers Will Thanks Will I think that the kit is 'standard AZ' plus an additional sprue for the TR version bits. Like yours I just think they don't go together that well. The dance was, er, contemporary. I certainly won't be humming any of the 'music'. Well performed though and my pleasure was assisted by a couple of bottles of beer during the show. We went back to our friends after and wine was had. Consequently I'm a bit fragile this morning, again. If I find out what causes this... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 28 minutes ago, CedB said: couple of bottles of beer during the show. We went back to our friends after and wine was had. Consequently I'm a bit fragile this morning, again. If I find out what causes this... Ced, I've highlighted a couple of clues for you... HTH Dr. Keith 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 27 minutes ago, keefr22 said: Ced, I've highlighted a couple of clues for you... HTH Dr. Keith I'm no doctor, but I was thinking along the same lines.... Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, giemme said: I'm no doctor, Me neither Giorgio, not even a witch doctor...!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Thanks Keith and Giorgio - so you think it's the alcohol? Strange, it makes one feel so nice at the time... Closed up and being smoothed: Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr Despite the initial appearance of a bad fit the seams scraped off nicely with the Citadel scraper and only the strange hole where the filler cap would be on earlier marks needed much attention. Family time today but I may sneak in some time later. I need to decide whether to fit the canopies now or mask off the cockpits and fit them later. I shall ponder. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britman Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I would fit them now Ced , much easier to get at . Fit and paint them now and the rest will be a breeze. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I agree, I always stick them on at this stage - much easier to fill & fair in. Mask them, paint the frames the interior colour & forget them till after the final matt varnish coat! The wonders of tamiya tape... Keith 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 hours ago, CedB said: so you think it's the alcohol? Strange, it makes one feel so nice at the time... Nobody denies that .. The fuselage does look good after joining the two halves Another vote for canopies on at this stage (the windshield at least), unless they fit perfectly or you want to keep them open Ciao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonl Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I normally fit canopies at the end but always left with gaps etc. On my currents (two Spits and a Seafire) I’ve fitted the canopies at this stage. I’d agree easier to deal with gaps and fit issues now.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k5054nz Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Looking good Ced, keep it up! I'm really enjoying following your build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malpaso Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, CedB said: the strange hole where the filler cap would be on earlier marks needed much attention. Isn't that the same filler cap on all Spitfires! I tried looking at Tr.9 photos, but hard to see, is it filled in? Where do they fuel them then? I don't think I'll change mine as it'll never match... cheers Will Edited November 26, 2017 by malpaso Looked at photos for clues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Nice clean up Ced. I have always fitted canopies at this stage but it seem to burn me every time. Fogging, plastic bits etc. My last venture I added the canopy last but as everyone else has said, “Fit issues” As I have found the wonders of Gator glue for clear parts I think I’ll go back to fitting at this stage. Either way you’ll ace it, I’m sure of that. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Thanks Britman, Keith, Giorgio and Leon - fit them now, got it... although it has occurred to me that the real thing has GAPS in the canopies so I'll see how they fit before deciding for sure. Thanks Zac, glad you're enjoying it 2 hours ago, malpaso said: Isn't that the same filler cap on all Spitfires! I tried looking at Tr.9 photos, but hard to see, is it filled in? Where do they fuel them then? I don't think I'll change mine as it'll never match... cheers Will Good question Will. I know the TR9 has its front cockpit moved forward and the tank is smaller, compensated for by tanks in the wings where the ammunition boxes were. I can't see the filler in any of the shots I have even though that area is visible. Have a look at these two shots: Looks to be pretty well covered eh? 18 minutes ago, The Spadgent said: Nice clean up Ced. I have always fitted canopies at this stage but it seem to burn me every time. Fogging, plastic bits etc. My last venture I added the canopy last but as everyone else has said, “Fit issues” As I have found the wonders of Gator glue for clear parts I think I’ll go back to fitting at this stage. Either way you’ll ace it, I’m sure of that. John. Thanks Johnny, good advice thanks. When you say Gator Glue do you mean Gator's Grip? Or really Gator glue? << The Gator's grip PVA glue I use for canopies. Anyway, remember I said I was going to check the wing fit before I went much further? Well I got carried away: Just the lower section glued but, after a bit of fettling I'm pleased with the fit, especially at the back: A little bit of filler required but otherwise nice. Don't worry, the top bits seem to fit well too. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Good fit Ced, but the canopies NOW REALLY IS THE TIME Just sayin... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Giorgio made a good point though Ced about if you want to leave a canopy open (possibly a rare occurence on the ceiling!) - I still fit and mask them now but only fix the opening part on (in closed position) with PVA, as I hate masking cockpit openings & never seem to get it right letting the exterior paint get into the 'pit! If you fit the opening bit with PVA its easy to pop it off and refix it open at the end, any pva left on the canopy sills easily comes off with a damp cotton bud... 10 hours ago, CedB said: although it has occurred to me that the real thing has GAPS in the canopies But they're not very big gaps or there'd be a heck of a draught...!! I thiink it's another one of those things in modelling that although it may be right that there are gaps, it doesn't look right in scale - unless said gaps are little wider that an engraved panel line. Just IMO of course! Looking good with the wings going on! Keith 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 That's looking great Ced! I've also used blue-tack (from the inside) to keep a soon to be open canopy in place to act as a mask for the cockpit, and to get the canopy rails painted at the same time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Thanks Bill, Keith and Cookie. Canopies on soon then so masking next. Oh joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 Anything to avoid masking the canopies, I've glued the tops of the wings on: Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr and fitted the crew (good job I remembered!): I almost forgot the 'mystery object' - remember the awful photo of the piece of wire with blobs on the end? The plan was to paint it black, cut then ends off and make some microphone booms. Madness. Of course one pinged off somewhere but the other got fitted by drilling a hole in the pilot's helmet (careful) and sticking it in with CA: ... then bending it into place: Luckily the camera focussed on the 'mini me' in that shot, sparing you the sad result of my efforts. That's twenty minutes I won't get back. These will be next: 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I love this shot... very cool! 8 minutes ago, CedB said: 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 It’s the stuff you pictured Ced. Too much glue with almost the same name. It’s like metallic paint all over again. Nice wing fitting by the way and the little you looks fab. Looking forward to some canopy action. Jont 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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