dominic_2005 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) F-14D Super Tomcat by HobbyBoss I came across this kit quite by accident while trawling YT on pre-shading. I was surprised to find such a large scale highly detailed kit for the price, and the quality isn't cheap either, certainly giving Tamiya a run for their money.Although they could take a lesson from Tamiya's instructions. This isn't my usual subject matter, but I thought I'd grab it, as I like pretty much anything that's large scale/detailed/different. This ticks 2 out of those 3. Plus it gave me a chance to practice some new techniques, mainly weathering, in preparation for something I have coming up in the new year. The kit is nicely packed and laid out in the box, and like Trumpeter, (pretty certain these are the same company) their was boxes within boxes. Two smaller boxes held the fuselage and various smaller components, along with a sheet of PE and, rubber tyres! Nice touch there. Painting guide, same with Trumpeter, are minimal, but at least Hobbyboss provide paint marking within the instructions. Trumpeter, take note! Mouldings look nice and crisp, panel lines are well defined, along with rivets. (Rivet Counters: Not sure if the rivets are accurate, not checked, wouldn't know how to check either lol) There are a few Aftermarket kits available, but for my purposes they aren't needed. They seem mainly for the cockpit which comes with enough detail OOB. There would be options for the scratch builder to add some detail to the engines, which are both fully detailed, and wouldn't be too much to open up a hatch or two if you were so inclined. For me, I bought this for three reasons: Scale/detail/price. To practice pre-shading. To practice washing the panel lines. Now the eyecandy... So that's the contents. I won't go into too much about each sprue. One thing to note is this kit does come fully loaded as far as weaponry is concerned. Some of the other kits require add-on packs for the loadout. So lets crack on! Starting with the radar assembly. This gets tucked in the nose cone which can be displayed open. It comes with PE for the actual dish (is that the right term?) These parts are teeny, just a few mm wide. They all needed fixing to some very hard to see dents, which I think are just about visible in the pic above. After taking this photo, I held the dish in some locking tweezers so I could nudge them parallel. And the damn thing pinged across the room! I was able to find it, but lost 3 out of the ten T sections. So, took the rest off, sanded it smooth and decided it will just have to do without them. Finally, I prepped the parts for spraying with a primer, and cracked open my new H&S Infinity...and this is where I will leave you for now. Thanks, D Edited October 31, 2017 by dominic_2005 Can't type. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossofiron1971 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 ooh! Nice PE work! What Adhesive are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramedic Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Looking good. I have the kit and it looks good in the box, agreed, so looking forward to you building it and showing off how it really is.. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 41 minutes ago, Crossofiron1971 said: ooh! Nice PE work! What Adhesive are you using? Thanks. Would have been great if I hadn't pinged it across the room and ruined what I just did *sigh* Mostly for PE I go for the simplest option, Loctite Super Glue GEL. 3 reasons: First, they sell it at a £1 a tube at my local Home Bargains, and second, its a very well behaved glue. It's a gel so won't run away from you, and you can pick the tiniest amount up with a cocktail stick. Third, it dries quick enough that you aren't sat there for 10 minutes holding in place, but slow enough to give you some time to adjust if needed. 25 minutes ago, Paramedic said: Looking good. I have the kit and it looks good in the box, agreed, so looking forward to you building it and showing off how it really is.. Good luck! Thanks. Why is it in the box? That's a crime! Preventing a kit from reaching it's full potential. Why would you do this, why why? lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Just sat here passing time waiting for things to dry, and checking out some photo's of the radar, and came across a 3D model someone had made on Deviantart: *Credit to siregar3d.deviantart.com I have some odd bits of small cable laying about, I do plan on having the nose cone open, so tempted to add some extra details... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Made a little progress on the radar this afternoon. I decided to go ahead and add some little details to it. Not entirely accurate but looks good nonetheless. Now...does anyone have any suggestions on how to create a pin/weathering wash from Tamiya paints and x20 thinners? The pinwash I want doesn't seem to be available anywhere in the UK currently 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) I’ve got a friend swears by this recipe. 1 drop paint. 1 drop dishwashing liquid(retarder). To 1/2 paint jar of water i believe. Try it out if you want. I dont use washes so havent tried it yet. Edited October 31, 2017 by Corsairfoxfouruncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossofiron1971 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Looking good sir! Went out and bought some CA Gel this afternoon and yes, one quid! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 44 minutes ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: I’ve got a friend swears by this recipe. 1 drop paint. 1 drop dishwashing liquid(retarder). To 1/2 paint jar of water i believe. Try it out if you want. I dont use washes so havent tried it yet. Cheers, will give this a try. I am guessing just plain washing up liquid...don't want my models smelling of lemon fresh daisies lol 14 minutes ago, Crossofiron1971 said: Looking good sir! Went out and bought some CA Gel this afternoon and yes, one quid! Cheers! haha no problem. They always look at me strangely as I usually buy a tenners worth every few weeks. When I am building wooden ships I go through it like water. (Not the preferred method for planking but sure speeds things along lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Why not order/use florys washes? Clay-based, completely removable with water and dead easy ro use. Some crazy people are even airbrush it. I like what you did with the radar assembly! Edited November 7, 2017 by Christer A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Thanks! Never heard of them, do you have a link please, I'll take a look see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Here you go: http://www.florymodels.co.uk/washes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 X20 is tamiya’s enamel thinners. X20A is their acrylic one mate. Which paint are you wanting to thin to make a wash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Christer A said: Here you go: http://www.florymodels.co.uk/washes/ Thanks, I'll take a look. 1 hour ago, Tony Oliver said: X20 is tamiya’s enamel thinners. X20A is their acrylic one mate. Which paint are you wanting to thin to make a wash? Yeh that one lol, I knew what I meant haha. As for which paint, I have a choice between Mr Hobby or Tamiya Acrylics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Hiya. I've started on the cockpit, specially, the seating arrangement. Each seat is made up of 6 parts, two of which are tiny. Once they were together, they were primed with the airbrush, then sprayed flat black. Following that, the cushioned areas of the seats were painted with *name of the colour escapes me now* and the head rests an IJN green. I also painted and fitted whatever those yellow things are between their legs. (Not the ejection handles as they seem to go above). And those cylindrical thingies were painted with My Hobby Metal cote alluminium, burnt iron and flat black. (Can you tell I know very little about aircraft?) Next up on this is the PE seatbelts, coming soon. Thanks, D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Hiya I've made some progress on this, finished the seats, and now I am working on the cockpit itself. First, the seats. I added the PE belts, and did a little weathering on them. Nothing over the top. Now for the cockpit. For the most part, this update is mainly priming/spraying and starting to add some details. The results look great under the naked eye, sadly my camera makes it look awful lol I will continue... D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Actually both are ejection handles. Sometimes for various reasons a pilot cant reach up. If he’s Wounded, the plane is tumbling in a weird angle, or a Flat spin (Top Gun) so there is a back-up lower for him or them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phildagreek Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Looks good! Hobby Boss make some nice stuff, I've built quite a bit of their armour & vehicles. Most of it is nicely detailed but they do on occasion seem to miss a big part out or mould it back to front, so it's worth dry fitting everything. I would agree that their painting guides can be a little vague & the instruction sheet does sometimes "forget" to mention that part B45 should be attached first etc. All good fun though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: Actually both are ejection handles. Sometimes for various reasons a pilot cant reach up. If he’s Wounded, the plane is tumbling in a weird angle, or a Flat spin (Top Gun) so there is a back-up lower for him or them. Ahh see you learn something new everyday then. Although that now does create a dialogue error in TopGun. As when they were in that flat spin Goose was shouting "I can't reach the ejection handle" lol 57 minutes ago, phildagreek said: Looks good! Hobby Boss make some nice stuff, I've built quite a bit of their armour & vehicles. Most of it is nicely detailed but they do on occasion seem to miss a big part out or mould it back to front, so it's worth dry fitting everything. I would agree that their painting guides can be a little vague & the instruction sheet does sometimes "forget" to mention that part B45 should be attached first etc. All good fun though! Thanks! Yeh they are a bit odd. I've noticed there is the odd random paint marker in the instructions here and there. Almost like they didn't finish writing them before going to print lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 The dialogue issue may not be there. 🤔 In a Flat spin the pilots arms would be pinned outwards to cockpit sides by centrifugal forces. He would have had a hard time moving them up or down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: The dialogue issue may not be there. 🤔 In a Flat spin the pilots arms would be pinned outwards to cockpit sides by centrifugal forces. He would have had a hard time moving them up or down. Then it is a filming issue as well...you see him with his arms raised flapping about the handle, certainly further up than he should have been able to raise his arms. I know, I am pedantic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Not bad mate keep it up! Is that the color they recommend for the seatbelts? Also, reference the ‘bat ear’ canopy breakers - the pilots ones should be longer than the RIO’s. Seem HBoss made one sprue of a naces seat and gives two of them. Here’s my (1/72) build of the hboss D cat for reference pics if needed as its in the same markings (but these are aftermarket as not an stock option like the 48th on is) The naces seats in the 72nd kit are way oversimplified so the kit was dressed up with dream model etch. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235012670-hobbyboss-172-f-14d-tomcat-vf-213-black-lions/ Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_2005 Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Tony Oliver said: Not bad mate keep it up! Is that the color they recommend for the seatbelts? Also, reference the ‘bat ear’ canopy breakers - the pilots ones should be longer than the RIO’s. Seem HBoss made one sprue of a naces seat and gives two of them. Here’s my (1/72) build of the hboss D cat for reference pics if needed as its in the same markings (but these are aftermarket as not an stock option like the 48th on is) The naces seats in the 72nd kit are way oversimplified so the kit was dressed up with dream model etch. Tony Thanks. They don't recommend any colour for the belts. They don't recommend any colours full stop to be honest. So I used a little artistic licence for them and a ref pic: Re the Canopy breakers (thanks, I did wonder what they were for) Yes I did notice that there was a difference, after I had already cut off the RIO's premolded ones. I'd take a look but there was no link? Thanks D Edit: I found it. Stopped looking after page 6 as your model is well out of my league, and it's depressing me LOL. Kidding, nice work on that, especially at the scale Edited November 4, 2017 by dominic_2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 34 minutes ago, dominic_2005 said: but there was no link? Sorted - RFI for the D from vf213. Sorry I spagged and forgot to paste it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I’ve noticed that too ? Im working on the Hobbyboss Fj-4 fury and they give part #’s in the instructions but zero paint call outs. The only give the two sided color diagram of the decal placement for any colors at all ? Decent kit but disappointed by that little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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