Gorby Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, BIG X said: I also know what you mean about BM holding more interest than actually doing some work - arghh - there I go again - it's not 'work' - it's 'fun' - must remember - FUN FUN FUN GET IT RIGHT LADDIE!!!! (You need to say that in a Scottish accent – sounds more effective). Fun NOT work, fun NOT work – go to the blackboard and write that out a thousand times! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 31 minutes ago, Gorby said: Would you two like to be alone? were you watching 50 Shades of Grey on the box last night and got "inspired" or summit? Caz watched it out of morbid curiosity, and now wishes she could get that time back. Said it was boring and bad. No surprise there! On with the modelling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick32 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Looks good to me mate, you are doing really well so stick at it! I'm too guilty of losing my mojo (seem's it's gone more than it's with me) but it will always return. As already said, try not to get too tied up with making it 'perfect' and just enjoy it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawzer Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Corsairfoxfouruncle said: BIG X .... at least you didnt pull what did. I built a spitfire had it all going good. I had the MSG on the lower fuselage & ocean grey up top. I put the masking tape on & spray the Dark green. realised i inverted the masks. I had the grey areas green and the green areas grey. We all make a goof. So dont get down about it. I VERY nearly did that. Had the masks on then for some reason looked again at the paint guide.......however in all fairness the paint guide had what i hink was called scheme A and B - same but reversed colours.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawzer Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Mike said: Would you two like to be alone? were you watching 50 Shades of Grey on the box last night and got "inspired" or summit? Caz watched it out of morbid curiosity, and now wishes she could get that time back. Said it was boring and bad. No surprise there! On with the modelling Whenever it was that the book came out I was on holiday and it seemed EVERY person of the lady persuasion was reading it. I get my masochistic kicks trying to stick bits of plastic together in the right order 😆😆😆😆 as you say, back to the modelling....... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangor Lad Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 DNice progress. Where did you get the circle cutter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Bangor Lad said: DNice progress. Where did you get the circle cutter? I got it off Amazon in the summer - can't find the link now - but I searched 'circular punch set' or similar - it is a cracking bit of kit. I've been using the black plastic that that forms the base of cooked meat packaging. You have to eat the Ham first - but then it is great for sticking masking tape to or as a mask in itself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 Good News - I seem to be wrestling this one back. How ridiculous does that sound on 'QUICK BUILD KIT' I kind of 'lost it' this morning - but luckily I have a second 'mojo build' running over in the aircraft section. The idea WAS - work on one whilst the other is 'setting' / 'drying' or whatever - but after painting the tracks the wrong colour I simply 'walked away' from the halftrack for a few hours. As it happens - that was the right thing to do and having a second build in the wings stopped me from giving up - so I'm well pleased. UPDATE SHORTLY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 BACK ON (the half) TRACK After losing the plot this morning I’m pleased to say that more paint has been splashed – and not in anger… Firstly – whilst I was loading the brush with more Olive Drab – I decided I might as well get the bodywork sprayed… ...still loving those open slits... …now back to those flippin’ tracks – take a deep breath - Olive Drab re-applied… …you have seen the rest – using little balls of whitetac to cover the OD – next spray with TYRE BLACK… …that’s more like it and here they are ‘pressed’ into place… ... I had a quick experiment with the shovel and axe heads too - but I'll come back to them later. Now for the real fun - but where to start??? I bought these metal finishes a few months back – but foolishly kept using the normal little VA metallics… …until tonight… To my eyes the suspension springy things look ‘real’ and I’m very happy with the winch too. I mixed literally - a drop of aluminium with a drop of steel – as the steel looked a little dark. It is very thin stuff and you only need the tiniest amount on the end of a very fine brush to get full coverage. I bet it will be brilliant for dry brushing – but I also bet it needs to be ‘very dry’. I will certainly be adding more colours to this range in the next few weeks – but I need to restrain myself – ‘buying isn’t making’ – my new mantra. Now – talking of buying – I lashed out on this set of MIG filters last month – with this project in mind… I actually have no real clue what I’m doing with them – though I did ask a few questions on here, but I think more advice would help before I set about ‘filtering’. I do have the underside to ‘practice’ on – so please feel free to HELP ME – that’s why I’m doing the WIP. My WIP’s aren’t master classes for others – they are lessons for me to learn. Oh and by the way – don’t forget I got these back in July… …I’ve only used the black up to now – for panel lines on a BF109. Time to learn some weathering skills… QUESTION – Filter first – then weathering??? ??? or, the other way round??? Help as always is most appreciated 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Well it hasn’t been a very productive day on the M5. The only thing I managed was painting the driver and his mate… …it was a bit time consuming to say the least as fine brush work is definitely not my strong point. Therefore I was forever waiting for one thing to dry – so I could touch up the spills into other colours – but I got there in the end. There was a first for me though – I glossed the boys up and piled on a load of black Flory wash – then left it to dry and sponged it off – to create a bit more detail that I couldn’t achieve with my sausage fingers and eyesight… …it was quite easy and I’m pleased with the results – but a bit like pilots and cockpits – once the boys are installed – there isn’t really a lot to see… I only popped them temporarily but they should look good when I glue them in and get a coat of matt varnish on them. I’m hoping for more progress tomorrow as I’ve got all these bits and pieces to prime and paint… …in between a doctor’s appointment AND the dentists – the fun never stops round here. BTW – I still have no clue how to proceed with the MIG filters and I can’t find anything useful on youtube – any ideas folks??? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawzer Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Which mig filters do you have? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, Lawzer said: Which mig filters do you have? All of them... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawzer Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Holy cow bat man! ii've not used any of those - i've only got some mig washes.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 WOW - I've just been to my local model shop - though he is an internet operation really - but he lets me collect - AND FOUND THIS IN MY BAG... ...sorry folks - no modelling this afternoon - I've got 132 pages to browse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorby Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Do I need to get the Scottish accent back out! Your supposed to be modelling not buying! What is is about catalogues? I find tool catalogues addictive even though I rarely buy carpentry tools these days – I've heard that it's called 'Tool porn'. So you must be doing 'weathering porn'. Dirty boy! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Gorby said: Do I need to get the Scottish accent back out! Your supposed to be modelling not buying! What is is about catalogues? I find tool catalogues addictive even though I rarely buy carpentry tools these days – I've heard that it's called 'Tool porn'. So you must be doing 'weathering porn'. Dirty boy! I only went for a bit of evergreen rod - to make an actuator for the Spitfire - I promise not to buy more MIG stuff - until I figure out how these damn filters work. Weathering porn eh - you should see page 98 of the catalogue - I've had to sensor it with a sandwich bag... ...I can only assume she took her clothes off to avoid getting paint on them 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Filters first, then give the model a coat of varnish (gloss/satin), and then washes. That'll allow you to remove the excess wash, and without it, the wash will just soak into the matt paint and never come off again unless you get drastic, and we don't want any more of that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, Mike said: Filters first, then give the model a coat of varnish (gloss/satin), and then washes. That'll allow you to remove the excess wash, and without it, the wash will just soak into the matt paint and never come off again unless you get drastic, and we don't want any more of that Thanks Mike - to be very honest - I can't even remember why I bought the filters... I 'think' I read somewhere about using them to subtly alter the colours of various panels on a tank / aircraft - or maybe as another way of shading - a sort of 'post' rather than 'pre' shading. The trouble with the tinterwebs is I read so much I struggle to remember what I read and where I read it - it all becomes kind of a blur. So I now know how to do it and the order to do it in - the only question is - why am I going to do it - what do the filters actually do??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 They're pretty simple to deal with, and TBH, sometimes they're a bit of frippery, but they do give you the option to (as you said) subtly change the hues you've applied. They're very dilute enamel washes that are supposed to be applied over acrylics. You load up a wide brush any apply them with a one/two stroke pass, getting the surface moist, not flooded. Then you leave 'em alone, as there's a good chance that the underlying paint will soften considerably whilst wet. Avoid picking up or handling for a good while (preferably overnight), and then decide whether you're done. You can use them both to change the overall colour, or subtly change the shade of certain panels. If you're looking to "dust" up a vehicle, you can lay the groundwork in filters, use Tamiya buff as a dust haze, and then pigments to finish the job. Lots of uses. I hear it also tastes nice applied to Eccles cakes too.* * Not true. Do NOT apply to Eccles cakes and eat them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mike said: They're pretty simple to deal with, and TBH, sometimes they're a bit of frippery, but they do give you the option to (as you said) subtly change the hues you've applied. They're very dilute enamel washes that are supposed to be applied over acrylics. You load up a wide brush any apply them with a one/two stroke pass, getting the surface moist, not flooded. Then you leave 'em alone, as there's a good chance that the underlying paint will soften considerably whilst wet. Avoid picking up or handling for a good while (preferably overnight), and then decide whether you're done. You can use them both to change the overall colour, or subtly change the shade of certain panels. If you're looking to "dust" up a vehicle, you can lay the groundwork in filters, use Tamiya buff as a dust haze, and then pigments to finish the job. Lots of uses. I hear it also tastes nice applied to Eccles cakes too.* * Not true. Do NOT apply to Eccles cakes and eat them. Thanks Mike - I will have a play with the underside of the halftrack - where no one can see what I've been up to. No eccles cakes for me - I'm off to the dentist for a check up - maybe later though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 Howdy folks - quick question - any idea what colour(s) I should be painting these... the 'real thing' has them as the same colour as the bodywork - is that correct??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 I also have 'stowage' - should they be dark earth - the same as the uniforms - or more tan - like the webbing??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badder Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 On 24/10/2017 at 11:56 PM, BIG X said: so please feel free to HELP ME – that’s why I’m doing the WIP. My WIP’s aren’t master classes for others – they are lessons for me to learn. Same here! 'The teacher learns as he teaches.' OR 'The best way to learn is to teach.' I don't think anyone can give a true 'Mater class'. The very best never stop learning, experimenting, trying out new things. All they can do is pass on what they have learned up to that moment in time. No one is perfect. And that's why I think it's essential to show the 'mistakes' and how they are rectified. Rearguards, Badder. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Badder said: I don't think anyone can give a true 'Mater class'. Hey Badder - The words BIG X and 'Master Class' certainly won't be going together anytime soon - I see myself more as a 'Master of Disaster' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Hi there Looking good so far. Weirdly struggling to see photos on my work computer but have viewed them on my phone whilst I type this!! Sorry to hear that the mojo has been on holiday - I've only just seriously started getting back into it after a couple of years of bitting and batting. I just go with the flow and build what I want, when and how I want these days as I want to enjoy my hobby again. Re stowage - the packs look like the small pack from the webbing set so should be the same tan colour as the webbing. The roll could be a green or khaki and no idea what the "square shape" is. If you fancy varying the stowage (or need more), these are pretty decent (and cheap!!) http://www.shqminiatures.co.uk/Ranges/WWII/British/Britishmain.php?UID=20171027121801195.194.86.83 I use them a lot, along with a range called Value Gear. Sadly I can't offer advice on the filters as I've not used them before. My AFV painting process consists of: primer, base colour, camouflage, wash, streaking, pastels for dust/dirt. Metal tracks are: primer, Halfords aerosol graphite grey, black wash to shade, sepia wash for rust, paint any rubber pads, pastel dust, highlight contact areas in dark silver or rubber black. The shading washes I use are these: https://shop.thearmypainter.com/products.php?ProductGroupId=21 Soft tone is sepia, strong is brown and dark is black. I use the sepia (soft) as a shade on flesh to help pick out the detail. I have tried other brands but many of them dry with a strange white "bloom" effect, particularly on the black washes. Even Vallejo suffers from this and I have ruined a couple of models using it. The army painter ones, so far, have been spot on and I've used them for 4/5 years now. I assume that the filters can be used to give a more gradual tonal variation in place of my wash / pastel process. I might try and pick some up at some point and have a play. In the meantime this is one of mine I've been working on that has been base coated and a sepia (soft) wash applied. It looks a bit much at the moment, but will soften when I apply dust and other weathering. This is the black (dark) wash applied to a panzer grey scheme And this is what else I get up to as a distraction from tanks (it's not finished yet). This has various different washes applied to pick out the detail. Looking forward to seeing how you get on with the rest of it. Opening the windows was a good choice - looks much better for it. Regards Ben 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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