general melchett Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Hi chaps, does anyone have any images or details of the pump system of the Mk II AEC 0854 version of the 6x6 refueler? I'm modding the venerable Airfix kit into, hopefully, a more accurate Mk II in time for our Bomber Command display at Telford but need details of the rear Stuart Turner pump system, (not the earlier petrol engined Zwicky PTO pump version). While the kit is basically a Mk II 0854 it has 'details' for the later S&P PTO pump system which was designed for AVTUR with the booms and hoses and totally wrong for the version I'm after. I've had a good 'Google' around and taken a few screen grabs from video of the vehicles but can't seem to find anything substantive on this system and wondered if anyone here had anything more. Cheers Melchie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Melchett's ALIVE??!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 Ha, yes stories of my demise have been greatly exaggerated, you can't get shot of me quite that easily.....I've been on a Black Sabbatical but never far from the front, keeping a weather eye on who's doing what to whom! Now Seahawk, do you know owt about bowsers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) Is this what you refer to as the Mk. II ?? Its my intention to build a scratch 1/48th version . . . . Edited October 18, 2017 by Mancunian airman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 Thanks Mancunian, lovely job, looks like a Mk IV with the overhead booms and hoses associated with the AVTUR and AVGAS versions. I'm after a mid-war Mk II. Be interested to see your scratched 1/48th jobbie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Don't know which version of bowser this one is and not that great quality: Jari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 Thanks Jari, I have that image, unfortunately, it's an early Mk 1 with the Zwickey PTO pump system, (the Mk 1 had a different steel cab roof, deeper radiator, spare wheel carrier and autovac tank fitted next to the rad). This is the only scanned image I have showing the Stuart-Turner Mk II, while it shows the general arrangement, unfortunately, it's in shadow and the chap is standing right in front of the pump, (how dare he do his job, doesn't he realise there's important modelling to be done here!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Here are a couple more but of the wrong angle: somebody in the way again: edit: here is one that floats, not on it's own: Jari Edited October 20, 2017 by Finn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circloy Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Accurate Armour's 0854 refueler in 1/48th has one of two pumps depending upon the version. Are any of these any good? https://accurate-armour.com/products/148th-products/k48013 https://accurate-armour.com/products/148th-products/k48007 https://accurate-armour.com/products/148th-products/k48002 Then there's also the QL https://accurate-armour.com/products/148th-products/k48009 https://accurate-armour.com/products/148th-products/k48003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Cheers chaps, appreciated. I've seen the Accurate Armour stuff before, superb quality but haven't come across the two Halifax shots, the second one is really helpful. I think I have it sorted now, thanks again for all the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Onkey Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 10:50 AM, general melchett said: the chap is standing right in front of the pump, (how dare he do his job, doesn't he realise there's important modelling to be done here!). Dare I suggest that in extremis you could model it as a vignette with a figure stood right in front of the pump who might just co-incidentally be obscuring some of the bits that are hard to get an image of... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Y'know this whole thread makes me uncomfortable. It's straying perilously close to pongo subjects that are "green and strangely brown". Steady there, General, before you lead us all into blasphemy and damnation! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Quote Dare I suggest that in extremis you could model it as a vignette with a figure stood right in front of the pump who might just co-incidentally be obscuring some of the bits that are hard to get an image of... Now that, as my fellow philosopher and feathery hat holder private Baldrick would say is a 'cunning plan'. I shall commission a committee to look at the feasibility of 'running it up the flagpole', 'square the circle' or even 'look under the bonnet' of the idea..you might be onto something here Marvel, I'll get my 'man' Darling to look at it right away... Quote It's straying perilously close to pongo subjects that are "green and strangely brown". Ah, Strangely-Brown, didn't he buy it at Gallipoli along with Drippy and Bumfluff? I apologise for the profanity! let me assure you that it's a temporary aberration and once the Telford show is over will quietly be put to bed to never again see the light of day...except of course for regimental dinners and related RAF WWII ground equipment functions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, general melchett said: Ah, Strangely-Brown, didn't he buy it at Gallipoli along with Drippy and Bumfluff? The very chaps! And don't forget Sticky who was out for a duck, and Gubber who snitched a parcel sausage-end and went goose-over-stump frogside. Brave men, all! 8 hours ago, general melchett said: I apologise for the profanity! let me assure you that it's a temporary aberration and once the Telford show is over will quietly be put to bed to never again see the light of day...except of course for regimental dinners and related RAF WWII ground equipment functions... Delighted to hear it mon General! My doctor tells me that equilibrium will be restored if I just keep taking the little pink pills. Personally, I'm far from convinced...I actually suspect he's a spy! Edited October 31, 2017 by mhaselden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 31, 2017 Author Share Posted October 31, 2017 Quote I actually suspect he's a spy! Great Scott!....guard, guard, bolt all the doors, hammer large pieces of crooked wood against all the windows, this security leak is far worse than we'd imagined...oh, and prepare the Cocker Spaniel, potty and flowery baps...we're in for a night of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Are we waiting for more details are are you going to show us a build General cos, I'm gather physical components to start an entire scratch of a 48th version . . . Oh my Lord I've said it and now I'm committed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Stevens Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 could these be of any use to you: http://www.catalogue-host.co.uk/richardedmonds/2011-06-11/lot_531?prev_page=search results&prev_url=%2Frichardedmonds%2F2011-06-11%2 Cheers,Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Hi, Might be too late now but someone else might benefit if not. I didnt know this was called the Stuart Type ll, there is also the Zwicky with its twin mirror image pumps, same pumps as in the rear of the Brockhouse 450 gallon trailer bowser (doors both ends) and also (as a mirror image of the 450 gallon bowser), the same pump in the Albion AM463 3 boom refueller, ( a la Airfix though they got the hose coming out of the trumpet ends very wrong, pure fiction) Here is the double Zwicky:- Merlin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Thats the first time I have seen the detail so close-up. Many thanks for sharing the photos, will come in handy for my scratch build 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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