Matty287 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Hi All, I've mostly been building Tamiya armour recently but have decided to take another go at ship modelling, I've ordered the above kit and have been looking at after market parts for it as well. Has anyone used Eduard photo-etch for this kit (Tamiya do a set but it's about £150!!) and what would people say about them? The three sets for the ship come to more than the kit, is it worth it for the extra detail or is it better to just stick to out of the box? Also any other recommendations of parts to add to it? Finally what do people recommend paint wise, I usually just use the Tamiya acrylics and think these are a grey paint for the price you pay, buy any suggestions of other things to try would be welcome. Cheers Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham T Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 SNAP (almost) I recently stuck a toe in the water of maritime modelling & picked up the Tamiya 1/350 King George V (same class as PoW). I grabbed a timber deck for it & am looking at replacement Pompoms, Bofors etc. There is a wealth of updates/upgrades for these models - no doubt a more experienced ship modeller will chip in with the necessary. I'll be looking at Colourcoats paints https://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty287 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Yea, it was a hard choice between the two, I think if this goes well I'll end up doing the King George V as well! Where did you get the wooden deck from and how much was it if you don't mind me asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Have a look at Pontos Model's detail up set for POW - set number 35015F1. I think most would agree it stands head and shoulders above anything else available for the Tamiya kit, and furthermore everything you need is in the box (except rigging line). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Im glad to see your getting the answers to your questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozothenutter Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 not a shipbuilder, but I understand there is a lot of 3D printed stuff available on shapeways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty287 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 I am thanks corsairfoxfouruncle. The Pontos model stuff looks good Jamie, it's just nearly three times the cost of the model, it's very tempting though! Thanks all for the great advice, I've looked at this forum a lot before for hints and tips just only now started using it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 You could just get the WEM photo etch set this is what I, am doing with mine but getting some practice in on some smaller builds first like a Tribal class and a monitor beefy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 hours ago, beefy66 said: You could just get the WEM photo etch set this is what I, am doing with mine but getting some practice in on some smaller builds first like a Tribal class and a monitor beefy PE35019 would be the WEM set if anyone is looking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Macnaughton Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I got this kit several decades ago and accumulated fittings as they were released starting with the Gold Medal set then the White Ensign which is very comprehensive. I started to actually build it about two years ago but paused once I needed to start fitting railings on the superstructure as it is quite demanding to cut and bend the lengths supplied by WEM to achieve a good fit. Fairly recently I realized that Eduard's railing set offers individually tailored bits that would greatly simplify things so have splashed out on this set and also their boats set as I think it is the only one that will improve the large open boats supplied in the kit. Others will have their own preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Agreed that is a pain with railings. WEM usually does offer bespoke railing lengths, but the KGV set was one of their earlier releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty287 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) It has arrived! It's such a hard decision between doing out of the box or getting the Pontos detail up set! I have a bit of money floating ATM so I think the detail set is winning. Does anyone have any images of the Pontos set? Also, what do people think of this as a total just OOB model. I know it's one of their older kits but Tamiya stuff seems to be pretty consistently good. Edited October 18, 2017 by Matty287 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Here are the official images: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty287 Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) Wow thanks Jamie! That does look mighty impressive. I'm guessing it comes with a quite comprehensive manual? I guess it now comes down to money and the decision of do I want to do the model again in the future if iI decide not to get aftermarket and then regret it! Edited October 18, 2017 by Matty287 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamwalker Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Remember the pontos is NOT for novices learn to walk before you run 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, grahamwalker said: Remember the pontos is NOT for novices learn to walk before you run Good advice If your not sure or not used this type of set before ask Shar whos a top class ship modeller for his advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty287 Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 Ive done a lot of armour and other models with after market decals, photo-etch and brass barrels etc so I feel confident. The biggest dilemma for me is I enjoy doing models out the box as much as I do adding after market for detail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The above is true - there's a lot to these. The quality of instructions makes one of the largest impacts. Some are better than others. With some it's really not obvious what you're meant to do. Prince of Wales, if being built in late 1941 guise also has a natty camouflage scheme to content with, which complicates the build sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I've just finished a Tamiya KGV in 1/350 using the WEM set and I wasn't that impressed. Int he future I have Academies Warspite to do for which I have a set by MK1 Designs this looks head and shoulders better than the WEM set but of course I haven't buit it yet, it's also cheaper thant he Pontos one though I think not so complete/overkill I would certainly consider a set by MK1 designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The WEM set for Warspite is much more recent and does have discreet railing sections etc. As above, the KGV set is one of the earliest sets. WEM is always accurate and they provide a lot of important little details that others often miss. If I had a criticism of WEM it's only that the instructions presume prior knowledge of what different fittings are called on real ships and that you have access to other references. One of the most important aspects of sets now (for me) is brass masts. Plastic ones are horrible and a real pain to rig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I've just had a look at the MK1 web site and they do a wooden deck for POW but no complete upgrade set, at least as far I can see, so that recommendation is no good, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham T Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 On 16/10/2017 at 4:34 PM, Matty287 said: Yea, it was a hard choice between the two, I think if this goes well I'll end up doing the King George V as well! Where did you get the wooden deck from and how much was it if you don't mind me asking? I got the Hunter deck via eBay. £19.80 was the "by it now" price. TBH mine came with no instructions, not even how to attach it but I understand its self adhesive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Pontos and Artwox sell decks separately too for it. The Pontos decks usually come with anchor chain and dry transfer draft markings too. Wherever it comes from an aftermarket deck is a better benefit than usual on this kit. Whilst I do like the kit and want another couple, the deck join really isn't clever and it's hard to get a satisfactory result. An aftermarket wooden deck neatly hides the problem area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73north Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) I totally agree , you will never go wrong with a wooden deck - I recommend the Pontos or the Artwox ( you get a free anchor chain included ) - if you were building say , the Arizona in 1/350 by Hobby Boss , an aftermarket wood deck would be essential to cover up the 2 seam lines on the upper deck that the kit makers have you construct - I also cannot emphasise , how much added detail they add , and they just look wonderful ( I have the Artwox deck on the Tribal Class by Trumpeter ) and the added detail is amazing . If you look at the Pontos metal gun barrel attatchment - you get a piece of metal that you can easily attach the brass barrels to , for ease - so that you can pose them elevated or at rest , this alone is worth a lot as it saves you having to cut off plastic gun barrels and fit them metal ones to a kit piece of plastic - which can be fiddly ( and the Pontos fit will be ultra-secure and strong - exactly what you need ) The level of detail is worth every penny in a super-detail set - they make a huge difference to the kit plastic ( as others will agree ) I also agree that metal ensign and jacks staff are really far better than the kit ones ( Orange Hobby make them - for US Navy - in 1/350 - but you can use them for Royal Navy ships as well ) Edited October 28, 2017 by 73north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Shortly after the above posts, both of the remaining Pontos PoW sets went the same day so perhaps someone reading decided to take the plunge! I am very keen to build Prince of Wales myself once we've taken colour research as far as it will go. I am sorely tempted to build the kit I have as HMS Howe though, as I do know the colours that was in when first commissioned in camouflage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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