RAGATIGER Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hi there Well in our local club this quarter contest is about Vietnam War so my models to choose are F-100 and F-105 but got a bit of confused about the interior colors so please help me a bit Natural metal F-100 Cockpit interior, U/C, wheels, U/C Interior F-105 Cockpit interior, U/C, wheels, U/C Interior For trumpeter F-105 call to white u/c and interiors but in old Monogram kits said Interior Green the same than WWII??? SEA scheme same 10000 thanks Armando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hello Fernando , Im not 100% certain but i believe the Cockpits were grey. I think the undercarriage bays were green early and switched to a white in a later maintenance cycle. Undercarriage would most likely be natural metal. Wheels were natural metal. Hope that gives you an idea. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Looking over the March 1978 version of T.O. 1-1-4 shows the following: F-100 Natural Metal Landing gear aluminum, wheel wells 34151 SEA Landing gear gloss white, wheel wells 16473 (aircraft gray) F-105 Natural Metal Landing gear and wheel wells aluminum SEA Same as for F-100 Later, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 For the F-105, both Trumpeter and Monogram are correct...The F-105s had either aluminum painted or chrome green wells when they arrived in Vietnam. Later these areas became white or even in the lower surfaces grey. It's one of those details where only a picture of the specific aircraft will give you a 100% correct answer, even aircrafts late in their career didn't have the wells repainted even if they were supposed to. When I researched my early war F-105D, I ended up choosing green. I may have chosen white for a later aircraft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 By coincidence, I've just started on the old Hasegawa F-105D. I managed to pick up a 1982 edition of the "Detail and Scale" on the F-105. There are lots of pictures of the interiors of bomb bays and wheel wells. Unfortunately, they are all in black and white but the colours look aluminium to me. The interior of the cockpits are generally a medium grey with the odd black panel. There are some good cockpit interior shots on the web if you do a search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Forgot the cockpits... both the F-100 and the 105 had cockpits in grey FS 36231, as standard for all US built military aircrafts after some point in the '50s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAGATIGER Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hi there 1000 thanks for your answer, they all surely help me to make a decision as by most the main trouble is that most photos of the timeframe are done not for modellers but for aircraft tripulations, ground crews and others around right now I just checked Colors & Markings 14 F-100 Super Sabre Part 1 Colors & Markings 21 F-100 Super Sabre Part 2 Crowood Press North American F-100 Super Sabre Detail & Scale 8 Republic F-105 Thunderchief Detail & Scale 33 F-100 Super Sabre Osprey Air Combat North American F-100 Super Sabre Osprey Air Combat Republic F-105 Thunderchief Osprey Combat Aircraft 84 F-105 Thunderchief Units of the Vietnam War Osprey Combat Aircraft 89 F-100 Super Sabre Units of the Vietnam War Squadron Signal 1017 F-105 in Action Squadron Signal 1185 F-105 in Action (new edition) Squadron Signal 1190 F-100 Super Sabre In Action Squadron Signal 5004 F-105 Thunderchief Squadron Signal 5523 F-105 Thunderchief Walk Around Squadron Signal 6034 Air War over SE Asia 1 1962-1966 Squadron Signal 6036 Air War over SE Asia 2 1967-1970 Squadron Signal 6037 Air War over SE Asia 3 1971-1975 Squadron Signal 6060 Wild Weasel The SAM Suppression Story Warbird Tech 18 Republic F-105 Thunderchief Warpaint 4 NA F-100 Super Sabre Warpaint 38 Republic F-105 Thunderchief And still I don't feel that there is a general rule of thumb so many variations and not many photos of same aircraft all are diferents Best modeling Armando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Giorgio N said: For the F-105, both Trumpeter and Monogram are correct...The F-105s had either aluminum painted or chrome green wells when they arrived in Vietnam. Later these areas became white or even in the lower surfaces grey. It's one of those details where only a picture of the specific aircraft will give you a 100% correct answer, even aircrafts late in their career didn't have the wells repainted even if they were supposed to. When I researched my early war F-105D, I ended up choosing green. I may have chosen white for a later aircraft What Giorgio said is good advice- you almost have to work from a photo of the ones you want to build, as FS34151, chromate green, would have been the norm, with some in aluminum, and some, after going through major maintenance/repaint, would likely have had the undersurface color applied to the wheel wells. Fun hobby, right? Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e8n2 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 The gray in the wheel wells called for by 1-1-4, FS16473, is noticeably darker than the underside gray of the SEA scheme, FS 36622. When I was stationed at what was RAF Woodbridge, our F-4s all appeared to have white undersides, which is how I have always done them, as it was much lighter than FS 36622. Could have been due to weathering and the scale effect of putting FS 36622 on a 72nd scale model. For what it is worth, the F-105D at the Travis AFB Museum, IIRC has gloss white wheel wells. It was painted in a one off desert camo scheme in the early 80s. Later, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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