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1/72 - Sukhoi T-10-10 RAM-K "Flanker-A" by Modelsvit - 3D renders+box art - release in 2018

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Yes!!! - It's the only one missing from my Flanker collection!!!

 

I gave up on the awful Unicraft resin(!!!) kit years ago.

 

Ken

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 Here is the original source. And BTW I'm the victim of the crappy Unicraft kit.

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"Decisions XXV congress  modelmakers party - in life!" :)

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They will make T-10-10. Real T-10-10 in Lugansk

Interestingly they will make T-10-1? Real T-10-1 in Monino (Russia).
But,  difference between T-10-1 and T-10-10 in details is very considerable. 

 

B.R.

Serge

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Source: https://fr-fr.facebook.com/modelsvit/posts/1986628661606175

 

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Dear fellows,

We shall do our best to make a nice Christmas present to you.....
Bellow you could find few renders of our next 1/72 kit - the T-10-10 (Su-27 prototype), which development currently is in progress. The kit means to have 160 plastic parts, photo-etched sheet, adhesive masks and decals for 3 colouring schemes.
So, stay with us....

 
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Outstanding choice of subject.  Modelsvit's output just goes from strength to strength ... and only my wallet suffers!

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On 9/29/2017 at 22:38, Aardvark said:

They will make T-10-10. Real T-10-10 in Lugansk

T10-10 photographed at Lugansk in 2006.........

 

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T10-1 at Monino (repainted incorrectly!)....

 

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Ken

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Oh WOW!! I was so tempted to try and scratch build this. WELL DONE Modelsvit!!

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14 minutes ago, Flankerman said:

T10-10 photographed at Lugansk in 2006.........

As it isn't strange, but only one walkarounds:

http://walkarounds.scalemodels.ru/v/walkarounds/avia/after_1950/Sukhoi_T-10/

And this walkarounds T-10-10 from Lugansk. No walkarounds T-10-1 from Monino! :(

List prototype here:

http://www.airbase.ru/hangar/planes/russia/su/t10all-t.htm

but there is a lot of unclear.
T-10 is very poorly studied prototype.
T-10-10 it of course is interesting, but I more like T-10-1 because his have rare for Soviet Air Force camouflage type  warp around.

 

B.R.

Serge

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Such a graceful aircraft. 

 

But message to Modelsvit- PLEASE Please take a year off! Travel the world, open a Taverna in Greece, learn a musical instrument- whatever, but just please give me a chance to keep up with these kit releases!

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Wondered if this might be of help:

 

"During 1978, the Sukhoi Design Bureau proceeded with construction of the first aircraft prototype [of the original T-10-1 (and T-10-2 which crashed)] equipped with a new-generation engine, the AL-31F. This aircraft was assigned the designation T-10-3and was the third prototype of the SU-27. The AL-31F engines, installed on this prototype had an accessory box mounted underneath the engine. This required an increase in the cross sectional areas of the engine nacelles and alteration of their side profiles.

 

The T-10-3 aerodynamc configuration had the following differences from the T-10-1 and T-10-2:

- modified engine nacelle contours due to the lower arrangement of the engine accessories and the use of an axisymmetric, fully variable, convergent-divergent, supersonic nozzle.

- canted vertical stabilizers mounted on the engine nacelles.

 

The T-10-3 was completed during 1979 and, on August 3, test pilot Vladimir Ilyushin made the first flight. Many uneventful flights were made. The first flight tests stage was for developing the AL-31F engines. In 1982 the T-10-3 made it's first take offs from an inclined ramp, a predecessor of an aircraft carrier ramp. This programme was carried out by OKB test pilot Nikolai Sadovnikov. During 1983, the T-10-3 was equipped with a landing hook and this aircraft made several carrier-type landings using ground arresting gear.

 

Simultaneously with the T-10-3 prototype, it's counterpart the T-10-4 was under construction. This aircraft was built during 1979 and on October 31 Ilyushin took it into the air. Along with engine operational tests the aircraft was used for optimizing the fire-control system and the flight and navigational systems. 

 

To extend the flight test program associated with the development of the electronic equipment installed on the T-10, it was decided to build a small lot of five aircraft at a production factory. These aircraft were called type T-10-5, but each of them were given an individual number(designation) , T-10-5, T-10-6, T-10-9, T-10-10, and T-10-11. The seventh and eighth prototypes radically differed from these. The Type T-10-5 series was similar to the T-10-1 and 2 prototypes in construction and arrangement, except for the canted vertical stabilizers. Each aircraft had a specialized set of electronic equipment customised to the needs of the flight test programme for that particular prototype. The T-10-5 prototype, built at the Gagarin Aircraft Factory in Komsomolsk-On-Amur first flew in June 1980. The T-10-6 was manufactured in the same year. The rest of the aircraft in this series were built in 1981 and 1982."

 

Antonov, Gordon, et. al. OKB Sukhoi. A History of the Design Bureau and it's Aircraft. (Aerofax/ Midland, 1996)

 

Will

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oh man, I wish this was 1/48. I've never heard this company do they do 1/48 models too? Maybe in the future.. :)

 

 

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5 hours ago, Killingholme said:

Such a graceful aircraft. 

But bad aircraft!

Academic G.Bushgens

https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Бюшгенс,_Георгий_Сергеевич

remember:

"I as the representative of TsAGI reported our concept. The scheme of a trapezoid wing with the rejected sock was the cornerstone of her. We have found very interesting thing. If on a wing to make sharp root flow, the peculiar pointed profile, then the most powerful whirlwind is induced there. In this tuft there is a depression which settles down over a wing. It causes huge carrying power. In one and a half it is more time, than usually. We also have suggested to put this effect on arms.

And in order that the wing worked at big angles of attack, we suggested to make the rejected noses on other part of a wing. That is to adjust a profile in order that it was flowed round from a sock without stream separation. And we managed it. As a result, if to lower other technical details which are clear only to experts with a big carrying power at us the front resistance of air has also sharply decreased. So, at the same draft that was earlier, on big angles of attack we received the big carrying power and still big maneuverability, could change easily a flight trajectory at very big speeds."

"TsAGI then very actively worked with MiG, having offered him that wing which we have developed. And they have accepted him. And at "Su" there was the vision of a new wing. They have come to the decision which seemed to us doubtful. This doubt consisted in the following. If we formed those whirlwinds only in the central part of a wing the flow then rejected by a sock protected other part from failures. And they have decided to make a sharp edge on all wing, that is to specially form whirlwinds and failures. At an exit to big angles of attack as then it was found, jolting and fluctuations of all plane appeared. All this was confirmed in the course of flight tests.

And so "Su" persistently defended the, in my opinion, wrong position."

resource: http://nvo.ng.ru/history/2007-07-20/5_wings.html

As result doing the plane for maneuverable fight, they have received the fighter not capable to dog-fight! Moreover due to increase in weight of the equipment by results of computer modeling 100 F-15 it was necessary for an equivalent of power 135 T-10 though the Air Force demanded on the contrary! Therefore T-10 him had to be redesigned in T-10C which is known as Su-27, and 100 Su-27 according to the computer are already necessary for a power equivalent 135 F-15, as well as the Air Force wanted.
It is by the way a typical example of inaccuracy of the expression attributed to Americans: "Aerodynamics for those who has no power enjine!" 

As result Soviet Air Force have very danger fighter who was 

not only paritet with West figter, but have superiority in IRST & 

missile R-73 integrated with helmet targeting.

T-10 disproves also the expression attributed A.N. Tupolev " Beautiful plane - well flying!"

In the general T-10 epic fail - Su-27 epic win!

But Su-27 it's other story!

 

B.R.

Serge

 

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Keep those Soviet experimental aircraft coming, Modelsvit! Now if you'd just release the La-200B...

 

Regards,

 

Jason

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16 hours ago, foxmulder said:

oh man, I wish this was 1/48. I've never heard this company do they do 1/48 models too? Maybe in the future.. :)

 

 

Yes they do, so you never know...

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Really looking forward to this kit as a contribution to future bankruptcy.

I have a slight confusion here - probably showing my ignorance.  The Aardvark image of the Lugansk aircraft from Friday seems to show the canted fins of the T-10-5 series, but the slender nose of the T-10-1.  I also cannot discern the fairings sticking forward from the fins that appear on the T-10-10, nor a nose probe.

Ken Duffey's image from Lugansk and the walkaround available on scalemodels.ru (dating from 2006/7) seem to have a different nose configuration - looks like an Su-27 nose grafted on, but joined at an angle and not aligned with a structural break.  Did the T-10-5 series have the old or new configuration?

My view of the Modelsvit CADs seem to show the later nose configuration.

All comments welcome.

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On 30.09.2017 at 11:47 PM, Killingholme said:

Wondered if this might be of help:

 

"During 1978, the Sukhoi Design Bureau proceeded with construction of the first aircraft prototype [of the original T-10-1 (and T-10-2 which crashed)] equipped with a new-generation engine, the AL-31F. This aircraft was assigned the designation T-10-3and was the third prototype of the SU-27. The AL-31F engines, installed on this prototype had an accessory box mounted underneath the engine. This required an increase in the cross sectional areas of the engine nacelles and alteration of their side profiles.

 

The T-10-3 aerodynamc configuration had the following differences from the T-10-1 and T-10-2:

- modified engine nacelle contours due to the lower arrangement of the engine accessories and the use of an axisymmetric, fully variable, convergent-divergent, supersonic nozzle.

- canted vertical stabilizers mounted on the engine nacelles.

 

The T-10-3 was completed during 1979 and, on August 3, test pilot Vladimir Ilyushin made the first flight. Many uneventful flights were made. The first flight tests stage was for developing the AL-31F engines. In 1982 the T-10-3 made it's first take offs from an inclined ramp, a predecessor of an aircraft carrier ramp. This programme was carried out by OKB test pilot Nikolai Sadovnikov. During 1983, the T-10-3 was equipped with a landing hook and this aircraft made several carrier-type landings using ground arresting gear.

 

Simultaneously with the T-10-3 prototype, it's counterpart the T-10-4 was under construction. This aircraft was built during 1979 and on October 31 Ilyushin took it into the air. Along with engine operational tests the aircraft was used for optimizing the fire-control system and the flight and navigational systems. 

 

 

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As I reed book A.Fomin "Su-27.Fighter story".

T-10-10 in 1984 year was study exponate

 "Kiev high military aviation ingenering scool".Now this plane in Luganask museum.

T-10-9 in 1984 year was study exponate

 "Riga high military aviation ingenering scool". Now status unknown.

T-10-5 in 1984 year was study exponate

 "Academy PVO (Air Defence) Tver".

T-10-11 in Academy Zhukovski.Now status unknown.

 

Not write in book- T-10-3 was when USSR ending in airfild Saky, Crimea and maybe sold ukranians with prototype Su-33 - T-10K-7 in China.

Total.

In theory maybe live T-10-3,T-10-5, T-10-9,T-10-11 + T-10-1 & T-10-10.

T-10-2 was crush, T-10-6 was die in fire.

T-10-4 was scrap. 

T-10-7 & T-10-8 was T-10C-1 & T-10C-2 prototype Su-27.

Then maybe 6 T-10 live from 9 develop.

It's no bad!

 

B.R.

Serge

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