Julien Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Is this still a Hind D, or one of the later retirements? the whole Mi-24 Hind? seems a minefield and this has cooling filters for the exhaust I have not seen before. Thx Julien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Its a HELICOPTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverkite Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Rounded and fixed pod for AT-6 guidance makes it a V Moving and squarish pod for AT-2 or whatever missiles makes it a D The one on your picture it's a V Luigi Edited September 5, 2017 by Silverkite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsBuster Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 This is Mi-24V from the exhibit dedicated to Afghanistan war at the premises of the military museum in Kiev. This particular aircraft is a fairly early machine of the V version. The filters are a fairly standard feature for Afghan War hinds and Mi-8s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, BallsBuster said: This is Mi-24V from the exhibit dedicated to Afghanistan war at the premises of the military museum in Kiev. This particular aircraft is a fairly early machine of the V version. The filters are a fairly standard feature for Afghan War hinds and Mi-8s. Thanks, going by what you said this is also a V? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Yes that is a V, on display at Momino. You notice the distinctive fuselage lean of the type well in those pics. I think if you see the Russian designation MN-24B (reverse the N) that equates to a Mi-24V. Edited September 5, 2017 by 71chally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 As well pointed out in above posts the missile guidance pod is the best clue as 'Ds' could have the exhaust suppressors. Here's the Helicopter Museum's 'D' for comparison: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Posted September 5, 2017 Author Share Posted September 5, 2017 Thanks guys, the whole Mi-24 designation thing is a mine field. I now need to re label a couple of walkaround threads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scimitar said: Here's the Helicopter Museum's 'D' for comparison: Right model, wrong place, that is Duxfords' Hind 96+21, the IHM has 96+26 Edited September 5, 2017 by 71chally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) Deleted - read the rules regarding swearing. Edited September 6, 2017 by Greg B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 42 minutes ago, 71chally said: Right model, wrong place, that is Duxfords' Hind 96+21, the IHM has 96+26 The one they sold to the USA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ya-gabor Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 14 hours ago, Julien said: the whole Mi-24 designation thing is a mine field. Not really, it is all very easy: the Mi-24 “D” models still had the Falanga missiles on the wing tips (the short "cigars" with big wings on perforated metal rails) with its guidance head, under the operators (the one in the front) cockpit. It is the square-ish looking small dome painted camo colour on the left side (looking in direction of flight). For the “V” the supersonic Sturm anti tank missiles in pairs on the wing tips (no rails) inside the cylindrical green containers. And the guidance antenna inside a perfectly round black coloured dome under the cockpit of the operator. It is bigger and round in comparison to the Falanga guidance dome. Everything else like the dust filters (PZU) on the intakes, or the exhaust cooling mixer (EVU or later bigger EVU M), the Ispanka "disco-light" or the different versions of the ASO-2V jammer dispensers were used on all versions so they are not of importance in identifying the sub-type of the Mi-24. Best regards Gabor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 14 hours ago, Scimitar said: Deleted - read the rules regarding swearing. Apologies. My comment in the now deleted post is.. I am off to the naughty step as it is blatantly obvious that it is Duxford. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar2 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 19 hours ago, 71chally said: Yes that is a V, on display at Momino. You notice the distinctive fuselage lean of the type well in those pics. I think if you see the Russian designation MN-24B (reverse the N) that equates to a Mi-24V. Actually it's at Zhulyany. Kiev. I took the photo at Easter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Rats, that's two of us with location I.d. issues! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsBuster Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 18 hours ago, Shar2 said: Actually it's at Zhulyany. Kiev. I took the photo at Easter. I think you are mistaken or your photos got mixed up. I have been to Zhul. many times and do not remember hills there at all. I have also been in the GPW museum and the display stand many times.... I do remember this exhibit and the very characteristic stone clad walls. (the other hint is the piece of an AFV next to the Hind) not many of those in Zhuliany right? Or may be they added those to Zhuliany in the past year, then I am sorry. 19 hours ago, Scimitar said: I am off to the naughty step as it is blatantly obvious that it is Duxford. The plaque in Ukrainian clearly excludes Monino as a contender... or Duxford for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar2 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 What hills, what AFV? There's a Mil 4 to the left of the Hind. Since Zhulyany is the only place I've been to in Ukraine I cannot have got my photos mixed up. and you can see the buildings on the other side of the airport. You can see the V behind the A here. If you're talking about the first picture, yes, that is the Museum of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in World War 2. Not known as the Great Patriotic War museum anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsBuster Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Shar2 said: If you're talking about the first picture, yes, that is the Museum of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in World War 2. Not known as the Great Patriotic War museum anymore. Yes, I was referring to the very first picture, which started the discussion. You can see the hill in the background and the AFV on the picture's right side. I presume they renamed the museum lately, but the exhibition in front of it is still the Afghan War one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar2 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Yes, they renamed it in 2015 as a de-communisation of Ukraine. I was referring to the other Hind V, so we were talking at cross purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Oh no, what have I (inadvertently!) started, actually I blame Scimitar! Cracking Hind pics by the way, Shar2. I really need absolutely dead centre front on, and rear on pics for references, so your V shot fits the bill nicely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 3 hours ago, BallsBuster said: or Duxford for that matter. I refer to post 7 which is Duxford. I cannot comment on the original posters locations as I only included the 'D' for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar2 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 37 minutes ago, 71chally said: Oh no, what have I (inadvertently!) started, actually I blame Scimitar! Cracking Hind pics by the way, Shar2. I really need absolutely dead centre front on, and rear on pics for references, so your V shot fits the bill nicely. Well I have sent all my photos to Julien for adding to the walkaround section, so keep your eyes peeled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 9 hours ago, 71chally said: actually I blame Scimitar! Duxford/Weston-Super-Mare/Monino/Ukraine.Can't blame me. Closest I've come to the Ukraine is Presov or Kosice in Slovakia! Next year though... The early Hind that SHAR2 posted is a beauty. Does anyone remember an Airfix Magazine article in which someone used a Puma as the base to make a Hind? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar2 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 @ScimitarI highly recommend Zhulyany, it's a great museum. There's another one near Poltava, but that is a 5 hour train ride to get to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 10 hours ago, Scimitar said: Does anyone remember an Airfix Magazine article in which someone used a Puma as the base to make a Hind? Both cinematographic masterpieces Rambo 3 and Red Dawn featured Puma's dressed up as Hinds. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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