jrlx Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 Hi Andrew, Thank you for the very kind words and best wishes. I also wish you a Happy and successful New Year! Yes, I won't rush the build and I'll try to apply a few new painting techniques, namely black Primer, for the first time. Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Hi again, I've been slowly progressing on this build since the last update but haven't had the time to post the latest work. With the GB in the voting phase I have now some more time, so here it goes. In the previous progress report I mentioned the fuselage joins near the tail had cracked. The cracks were repaired with TET but I decided to reinforce the joins applying some CA inside the fuselage. To do this, I removed the masking from the mid-ship gun turret opening and applied a fair amount of medium-thick CA on the lower join through both this and the tail turret opening. Then I tilted the fuselage at an angle, with the nose pointing down, so that the glue would slowly flow along the lower join, from the tail to the cockpit area. A similar procedure was used to apply CA inside the top join between the mid-ship opening and the tail, now with the fuselage upside-down and tilting it with the tail pointing down. The following picture shows the glue already dry along the bottom fuselage join, as seen through the mid-ship turret opening: IAMG5207 The fuselage was clamped while the CA was still curing and left alone for a day: IMAG5208 After this, I took care of the joins between the tail assembly and the fuselage. CA was applied first to fill in the gaps, followed by PPP: IMAG5209 IMAG5210 After some sanding and polishing along the joins and base, this "thingy" was glued to the top walkway, as per the instructions (certainly not one of Italeri's finest achievements...): IMAG5211 The remaining PE parts for the fuselage were bent: IMAG5214 The smaller ones were glued in place in front of the cockpit: IMAG5215 The larger ones were slightly curved in order to better fit to the rear fuselage: IMAG5216 IMAG5217 To be continued. Thanks for looking Jaime 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Very nice work on the joins Jaime and I think you've sorted them now, fingers crossed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahunaminor Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I'd be happy with those joins. I am curious to see how it turns out. Regards, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, CedB said: Very nice work on the joins Jaime and I think you've sorted them now, fingers crossed! 20 minutes ago, Kahunaminor said: I'd be happy with those joins. I am curious to see how it turns out. Regards, Ced, Kent, thanks! I hope the joins are now sorted out. The fit was so good when I joined the two halves to close the fuselage that I only applied TET along the joins and relied on the capillary action. That didn't make them strong enough. I've seen BMers using other types of glue for glueing together large parts (e.g.: 24h epoxy?). Any recommendations? Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Another update of work from last week. There's a support part in the kit for the tail turret but the instructions are not very clear on how to install these parts. In order to try and clarify this, I looked at the following pictures, available at dornier24.com: My first interpretation of the pictures lead me to install the turret base like this (the opening of the part is already masked with tape): IMAG5212 However, I wasn't completely satisfied because when the turret was installed, it didn't look quite like the picture. So, I removed the turret base and managed to install it in the tail opening, like this: IMAG5218 The opening was masked: IMAG5220 Now the bottom edge of the turret fits flush with the tail but I'll have to paint a strip around the turret, to simulate the metal structure that can be seen in the picture on the lower part of the turret. To be continued. Thanks for looking Jaime 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Nice turret Jaime, that looks much better I use TET for joins (and sometimes touch-n-flow weld) but I always make sure to press the parts together and get the plastic flowing - I guess it's easy with capillary flow that it misses some parts or that the slightly melted plastic doesn't 'set together'. It also makes sure there are fewer 'gaps' to fill! HTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 I do the same, Ced. I always try to make the plastic ooze out, to act as "natural" filler. In this case, there were sections of the joins where no oozing occurred, despite pressing and clamping. Maybe that explains the weaker joins. Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I completely missed that in my build, Jaime, but Italeri didn't do any favours with the structure around the rear turret. By the looks of it, the bulge in the hull should be lower, so that the turret support/base sits more or less flush with the upper hull (deck? Do flying boats have hulls and decks, or are they still fuselages?). The angle of the photo may be misleading but it looks as though there should not be a slope down from the elevators to the turret. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Hi Chris, Thanks for looking! 1 hour ago, amblypygid said: By the looks of it, the bulge in the hull should be lower, so that the turret support/base sits more or less flush with the upper hull The ring that stands slightly proud of the upper hull/deck (I don't know either ) fits the inside of the turret. The turret base will sit flush with the hull/deck (that again...) 1 hour ago, amblypygid said: The angle of the photo may be misleading but it looks as though there should not be a slope down from the elevators to the turret Yes, the angle of the photo is misleading. When the aircraft sits properly (like when the real thing was floating still on water), the slope from the tail plane to the tail turret is very slight. I'd say Italeri did here not too bad an approximation to the real aircraft but the instructions should be clearer. Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Dear All, I'm currently very busy with my day job and I'll have another German test this coming Monday. So, I don't think I'll have time to continue the build before Tuesday and I may need more time than expected to finish the build. Therefore, I decided to move the build to the Aircraft WIP area. Hopefully, I'll finish it by the end of January or early February. I still have work from last week to post, so that the thread becomes up to date. Thanks for looking. Jaime 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Great to see this build continuing Jaime! Some lovely progress with the PE and tail-work. The very best of luck with the German test on Monday. (BTW I've picked up 'The German Genius' book again myself!) Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, TheBaron said: Great to see this build continuing Jaime! Some lovely progress with the PE and tail-work. The very best of luck with the German test on Monday. (BTW I've picked up 'The German Genius' book again myself!) Tony Hi Tony! Thanks for your interest in the build and the best wishes for my test! I'm still reading the book myself. I've reached the Weimar Republic period and the Expressionist cinema. I've even bought "The cabinet of Dr Caligari" in blu-ray, the first important film of the period. I found the film by chance in a Book/Film/Music/Electronics Megastore and it's the restored version which was shown in 2014 in the Berlin Film Festival. Cheers Jaime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Hello, looking good on the aft turret. Hope it will match like on the original photo. Also good to see you moved here with your thread after the deadline. So you can surely expect more visitors again. Cheers from a slightly windy Germany. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 Thanks Benedikt! I hope to bring the thread up to date in the next few days and get back to working on the build early next week. After my German test on Monday Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi again, This is a long due update, to show the point I reached by the end of the GB. I've been terribly busy in the last two weeks with work in the office and the final stretch of the semester in my German course, so I only managed to get back here today. So, after solving the installation of the tail turret base, there were still a few parts to glue to the fuselage. These are the mooring heads (?): IMAG5221 Two are glued to the front of the fuselage: IMAG5222 Two on each sponson: IMAG5223 Two on the aft fuselage: IMAG5224 The remaining parts go on the tail: IMAG5225 And here is the fuselage ready for priming: IMAG5226 But before priming, there's still a lot of work to do. The engines must be assembled first. Here they are in different phases of the assembly procedure: IMAG5227 And finally, the completed engines: IMAG5228 The fit was quite good. I just have to do some tidying up on the joins. That's as far as I managed to go within the GB. The next update will already be post-GB work. Thanks for looking Jaime 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 First time I’ve seen this, lovely detailing. I’ll be following now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, woody37 said: First time I’ve seen this, lovely detailing. I’ll be following now Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Nice work Jaime. Those cleats (I think that’s what they’re called) and engines look great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Thanks, Ced! 41 minutes ago, CedB said: Those cleats (I think that’s what they’re called) Thanks for the clarification, I don't even know how these things are called in Portuguese... Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Another post, to bring the thread up to date with the work done till now. I want to prime all parts in one session. So, there are still things to do before being able to do that. One of those things is enhancing the tail turret. As can be seen in the picture of the real thing, which I repost below, the turret had a metal base and a framed plexiglass dome: The kit part is just a framed dome but the dimensions are correct (height x diameter) so it's possible to paint the metal frame around the transparent part. For that, I took some measurements from the picture and the kit part to determine the height of the metal base: IMAG5229 I cut a strip of masking tape of the correct width and applied it around the lower part of the turret, to serve as a template for masking the top of the part: IMAG5230 Next, I started masking the top of the turret. Due to the curvature, the first strip of masking tape above the template had to be quite narrow in order the get a straight edge: IMAG5231 The top could then be masked without any further difficulties: IMAG5232 The template was removed and the part was put on a toothpick, ready for painting: IMAG5233 Finally, the interior colour RLM02 was applied: IMAG5234 Black primer will later be applied to this area of the turret, when I prime the fuselage, wing and all other remaining external parts. After this I removed from the sprues and cleaned several parts like wing struts and other external parts. I haven't finished this work yet. When it's finished I'll post some pictures and will be able, at last, to prime everything. Thanks for looking. Jaime 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaPlane Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi Jaime Lovely work here - great to see this progressing after the GB. The rear turret looks good and a much better presentation against your reference photo. The Do24 at Soesterberg has a different rear turret again, so clearly lots of opportunity for making a personal statement!! Also seems clear once again that this updated Italeri kit is way better than the earlier boxing I have waiting to be built. Take Care - looking forward to the next installments Andrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 That continues to grow ever more attractive the more you do to it Jaime! Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Beautiful work as ever!! The effort you put in to these builds is great viewing, nice work Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 hours ago, SeaPlane said: Hi Jaime Lovely work here - great to see this progressing after the GB. The rear turret looks good and a much better presentation against your reference photo. The Do24 at Soesterberg has a different rear turret again, so clearly lots of opportunity for making a personal statement!! Also seems clear once again that this updated Italeri kit is way better than the earlier boxing I have waiting to be built. Take Care - looking forward to the next installments Andrew Thank you, Andrew! Very kind! Regarding the tail turret, the pictures I'm using as reference are for a Luftwaffe Do 24T like the kit and the instructions show the same kind of tail turret in the colour scheme I'm doing. Here's a detailed view: IMAG4908c It seems the configuration of turrets could vary. One of the options in this kit (the Spanish colour scheme) only has the mid-fuselage turret. 2 hours ago, TheBaron said: That continues to grow ever more attractive the more you do to it Jaime! Tony That's extremely kind, Tony, especially coming from a master modeller like you 53 minutes ago, rob85 said: Beautiful work as ever!! The effort you put in to these builds is great viewing, nice work Rob Thank you very much, Rob! Very kind, as always! Cheers Jaime 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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