giemme Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, perdu said: Who told him about Tamiya's Curvy Line masking tape huh? I'm a great fan of this tape, BTW Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 And I have just finished masking with paper the strengthening plate places for a few oversprays of thickish paint Message for James: Message reads: Do these stiffening things show up underneath XA466 too? Message back to Bill: get yerself into the pictures James has posted and answer it for yourself Its OK James I'm on it Picture A few flashovers with any colour just to build up the plate positions next (these plates can be used underneath after they come off the top) 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Now whilst I wait, where did I put that Buckynear? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, perdu said: A few flashovers with any colour just to build up the plate positions next (these plates can be used underneath after they come off the top) Ingenious! Ciao Edited January 4, 2018 by giemme 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 I am not going to run round shouting that the sky is falling in, oh no. Just mind your head, just saying... This is scanned from my bible, the 4+ drawings Which magnificently does its best to display all the warts and all of the subject, herein the tailplane fillets that cover the incidence change I have come to rely on this piece of magic but a slight discrepancy raises its pretty little head still a few seconds of extra trimming will sort that out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) All right missus, here's one, here's one Freshly filleted Gannet Bottom Top A little light brushwork will make that look about right Edited January 5, 2018 by perdu My gaffer's shopping list even I am embarrased 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Glamorous detailing there, Bill And she really looks like she's flying away in that second shot Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Bill, I think you need a bigger/ better work-space, not enough room to swing a . Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 On 04/01/2018 at 2:19 PM, perdu said: From that picture I'd say that you are a man intent on sticking to his principals Bill... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 This is pure Gannetting at its best!!! BRAVO!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 his is looking extremely promising Bill! Martian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 Hi Martian, hope you are OK sir been wondering... Anyway, I thought I'd try this for the plate masking tasking A scan of the 4+ plans across a strip of Tamiya tape Good transparency anyway but with tape on the paper I hope we can cut out the plates on a sticky-er medium to keep overspray at bay This is printed across the tape, works well but it stuck to the paper doh... This, given the sheet of paper stuck over the wings is Plan A and the Tamiya tape is Plan B must be Plan C Plastic book covering film cut to A4, straightened out twenty times to remove the natural curl that would stop it going through the printer This in natural indoor light from the camera This in flash I will be cutting out the stiffener panels and trimming the film to suit then fit them in place of the paper ones If the paper ones don't work out, all this is contingency stuff Now do you remember these? Beautiful little cutters, came November-ish for trimming sprue gates and other plasticy jobs I pulled down the LED lights from our garden tree this morning and a shortish length of the light run caught in the trees branches and snapped at a joint Because touching the end of the cable got the LEDs lit up again I thought, simple job, strip off a length of the heat shrink tube and touch in with solder and pack em away for later this year Snip with the nice new cutters Duck! This really was not being asked to do much, just snip an end on the shrink tube, not even cutting the wire insde Just missed my eyes and I was glad I had my reading specs on because an inch closer and I'd have had a chipped lens or worse Don't trust 'em if they're pink 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Phew, glad it missed Bill! Are those the ones Tony was raving about too? I've still got an old pair of genuine Xurons an ex member of our model club gave me (he came to one meeting with about a dozen pairs he'd appropriated from somewhere!) - with luck they'll outlast me! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 ATTA STRONG BOY!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 Thanks guys, I think these are they Keith Certainly came at a similar price to his, free postage from China too I wonder how that can be properly costed for a couple of quid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Flippin' ' eck Bill - I have some pink cutters too so I'll take care! Could've had yer eye out! That scan / mask / paper / film stuff looks interesting but I've lost track of what you're trying to do! If you want me to try something with the new cutter let me know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 I wouldnt worry TOO much Ced, but do make sure your eyes are protected at all times when using cutting equipment That should do it (They've decent enough eye pertection at Poundland, Tommy Walsh [who he?] recommends them for a quid ) The wires in the lights have little brass ferrules in which each pair of cables is crimped it is possible the cutters caught one of those although I had to strip the plastic shrink tube back even further to find it Never mind, if you only use them on nails or sprues it should be OK, I'm trying to decide whether to buy another set, it could just be fatigue stress that broke it after all Cheapo Chinese steel maybe, with bubbles in the casting so I shan't cast aspersions The job I am doing/planning is to create a set of raised up stiffening plates atop and under the wings, but I think I can feel tectonic plates move acos it is taking me so long I might just give up or try talking Steve Friday into etching them in his experimental dungeon Or better still just stick tape down and cut away the outside shapes, they are very thinly raised on the upper and lower wings 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Alu tape could probably do the job as well, Bill. Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 Probably be easier to cut 40 odd out than to cut them away for spraying through, though I'm just using the Gannet as proof-of-concept this time round. We'll see in a day or so 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 This sequence of rubbish actualy shows the results of trying out my concept on my workbench Far easier to remove from melamine® than an elderly Frog/Novo Gannet (Its all gone now, by the way) I only stuck the tape onto the bench for the craic and after a couple of dollops of Airfix LAG followed by no 34 the poorly cut out tape was lifted to see how it went Considering my lack of care taken, I think it will do the trick over there on the Gannet 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I think it will, too. Once more, ingenious! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) Where's Fritag????? Alternatively you could make a template from thick plastic card with a hole of the right shape and use a pointed tool to cut some plates out of thin plastic card.... Then You could use Tamiya new light green cap liquid glue to stick them to the wings. I used this system and the end result is fine. Edited January 10, 2018 by massimo2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 I keep having to remind myself that impatience will be the death'o'me, that would probably work nicely, I just always want another way Not even likely to be a better way either This idea did work but as I just remarked impatience got in the way I unmasked it early because I used paper to mask it And painted it in water soluble paint with a fresh water carrier to thin it out Doh, Ripples'R'Us Second coat ran below the surface and ran and... As proof of concept I think it worked, but I need to test with the book covering film version See this space... As I had black paint in the airbrush, and incidentally the reason I had black paint (humbrol 85) in the airbrush I gave these their much needed coat of 'black Gannet Accomodations for the use of'... The Airwaves Gannetery afforded a drop of Hu85 in the vain hope of some contrast 'Down In The Hole' (©The Wire credits) which hasnt' been massively successful But a dusting of some pastels and touch up with the water-colour pencils should give us more resolution, I think they'll do 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, perdu said: As proof of concept I think it worked, but I need to test with the book covering film version My : if I was to do anything like that, I would spray a thick-ish layer of Vallejo Grey Primer. I agree on the masking medium, though. Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 That's some nice surface detail trickery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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