Helicopter Coloring Questions

[e8n2]

I'm hoping someone out there can give me a definitive answer, or a place to look for one, on a couple of helicopter coloring questions.  First one, a UH-1N at Misawa, Japan most likely during an open house and air show:

 

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=uh-1n&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs-att_001#id=29&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vaq136.com%2Fmisawa%2Fmisawa-082b.jpg&action=click

 

The lower color is most likely FS 16473 as that is what was called for in 1-1-4.  What is the upper color?  I'm thinking either FS 16081 or 16118.  I'm leaning towards 16081, but would like something more definitive.

 

Next is a picture of a CH-3C taken in the early 60s:

 

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=ch-3c+helicopter&fr2=piv-web&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs-att_001#id=1&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.helis.com%2Fh%2Fh3_63-9690.jpg&action=click

 

It looks to me to be in FS 16081 since the Air Force originally got their H-3s from the Navy.  Dark Gloss Blue, FS 15045 is also a possibility as that was the original finish of Air Force UH-1s.  Army gloss OD is also a possibility, but it looks more Seaplane Gray (FS 16081) to me.  Here is an example of H-3As operated by the Air Force after transfer from the Navy that were definitely in Seaplane Gray:

 

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=ch-3c+helicopter&fr2=piv-web&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs-att_001#id=108&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.helis.com%2Fh2%2Fs-61_usaf.jpg&action=click

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

Later,

Dave

Edited July 29, 2017 by e8n2

[andyf117]

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[e8n2]

I planned on leaving off the box as that was used only for an exercise.  I'll have to check for the color used on Army C-21s since that would have been the color used.  I recently acquired the old Revell kit so that started a search for possible finishes.  Besides knocking down all the rivet heads, I will also have to get rid of the stub wings on the sponsons  since the early aircraft did not have them.  Thanks for the info.

Later,

Dave

[e8n2]

Found a decal sheet for the CH-3C at the Wolfpak Decals site.  It is sheet 72-075:

 

http://www.millcreekconsultants.com/WP72-A075.html

 

One thing though.  The decal sheet has the serial number in white, whereas the photo clearly shows it in black!  Should be simple to make my own decal for the serial number.  Hope to have this sheet on order within the next day or two.

They also list the color as FS 16087.

Later,

Dave

Edited August 8, 2017 by e8n2