Big Person Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Looking really good Glynn, what paints are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Wasley Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Mine just burnt and crashed FANTASTIC craft man ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Andrew Jones said: A common fallacy when painting " Mickey Mouse " is to carry it on to horizontal surfaces . With this style of camouflage and shadow shading all surfaces viewed from directly above should be painted in solid darker colour , not patterned. Andrew So andrew, are you saying the whole roof should be the darker colour, i have to admit to following the paint instructions here, but obviously i would like to get it right, there's a dearth of examples in the mm camouflage scheme on the net, any assistance would get you mentioned in dispatches, cheers Glynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Big Person said: Looking really good Glynn, what paints are you using? Tamiya xf 49 and tamiya xf63 , lightned and darkend to varying degrees with a touch of xf 2 white, both thinned with mr hobby laquer thinners, thanks andy 24 minutes ago, Jim Wasley said: Mine just burnt and crashed FANTASTIC craft man ship. Get back on it jim, c'mon Cheers Glynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Jones Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 43 minutes ago, Hewy said: So andrew, are you saying the whole roof should be the darker colour, i have to admit to following the paint instructions here, but obviously i would like to get it right, there's a dearth of examples in the mm camouflage scheme on the net, any assistance would get you mentioned in dispatches, cheers Glynn Exactly that , the whole of the roof , tops of mudguards ,bonnet and tool boxes should be in the darker colour, see Matador models link ,fig 7 for official diagram of foliage pattern , of which mickey mouse was a variant. http://www.matadormodels.co.uk/tank_museum/camo charts/cooperCamotimeline-Britishsheet(2).htm Andrew 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Andrew Jones said: Exactly that , the whole of the roof , tops of mudguards ,bonnet and tool boxes should be in the darker colour, see Matador models link ,fig 7 for official diagram of foliage pattern , of which mickey mouse was a variant. http://www.matadormodels.co.uk/tank_museum/camo charts/cooperCamotimeline-Britishsheet(2).htm Andrew Seems a minor repaint is in order, i appreciate it andy Glynn So would there still be the lighter colour on the sides of the mudguards or just overall dark Edited October 15, 2017 by Hewy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Wasley Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Hewy said: Tamiya xf 49 and tamiya xf63 , lightned and darkend to varying degrees with a touch of xf 2 white, both thinned with mr hobby laquer thinners, thanks andy Get back on it jim, c'mon Cheers Glynn Thanks Glynn,just my thoughts,I will keep on keeping on.Cheers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbasket Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Right or wrong, it's looking good Glynn. Look forward to seeing the repaint. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Moore Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Nice work Glynn These might help regarding the camo. Andy 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Cheers Andy, good examples there, I can see I've been led astray here by ibg's painting instructions, And thanks again andrew jones for the link, Glynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 I've had a repaint, hopfully it will be the last, theres some touch ups to do, but I'm holding fire until i can gauge reactions, or I'm told its downright wrong, Everything is only resting in place no glue, still some bits to do, right or wrong please let me know, Thanks Glynn 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Person Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Hi Glynn, I don't know which is historically correct, but all the models I've seen have the pattern as in your original paint job. That also applies to vehicles at 1940s events too. The solid upper colour just doesn't look right 😀 At your suggestion, I've started a thread of my build too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Jones Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 That looks about spot on to me ,just what I'd expect to see. Andrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Wel if the photos are anything to go by it looks spot on to me also 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Moore Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Looks good to me Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Andrew Jones said: That looks about spot on to me ,just what I'd expect to see. Andrew 2 hours ago, colin said: Wel if the photos are anything to go by it looks spot on to me also 1 hour ago, AndyRM101 said: Looks good to me Andy Thanks gentlemen, if it passes muster, I'll move along 2 hours ago, Big Person said: Hi Glynn, I don't know which is historically correct, but all the models I've seen have the pattern as in your original paint job. That also applies to vehicles at 1940s events too. The solid upper colour just doesn't look right 😀 At your suggestion, I've started a thread of my build too! Regarding the upper color andy, i feel it always best to err on the lighter side of the appropriate colour as the weathering, washes, oils and what ever else gets put on will usually darken the finish, cheers Thanks, Glynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etienne Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Wahou ... all the efforts are paying off and the Scammel is awesome ... nice detailing, camo paint and subtle weathering !! E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbasket Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I hope it's right Glynn, because it looks excellent. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Person Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Hewy said: Thanks gentlemen, if it passes muster, I'll move along Regarding the upper color andy, i feel it always best to err on the lighter side of the appropriate colour as the weathering, washes, oils and what ever else gets put on will usually darken the finish, cheers Thanks, Glynn I always do mine slightly lighter too for that very reason. It's surprising how much the washes etc will darken the colours. Best Wishes Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindicareassassin Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Hewy said: Thanks gentlemen, if it passes muster, I'll move along Regarding the upper color andy, i feel it always best to err on the lighter side of the appropriate colour as the weathering, washes, oils and what ever else gets put on will usually darken the finish, cheers Thanks, Glynn It's now correct in both lay out and colour as per MTP 20 & 46 so carry on and as you were, The black is not 'black' at all and is actually referred to as 'slate' which varied in darkness right up to an Anthracite shade, Mike Starmer suggests that Revell slate grey is a good match for it........ The paint applied to canvas' could be darker up to black as some were made from bitumen to increase flexibility on them, but that depended on supply, the rest were painted with distemper paint so we are back to dark grey again with that. For future reference from MTP 46, this is pre 'Mickey Mouse', all that changed was the top colour lay out and the move from SCC2 to SCC15 when the British adopted OD as their main camo colour.... 13987641_1768560233423178_2221675716792049826_o camoscheme 21742869_10155685642129304_7707917062305747173_n ATB Sean 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Looking excellent to me Glynn! Very nicely done! Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Person Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Glynn, it looks like I owe you an apology about the upper colour. It definitely should be all the dark colour! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, PlaStix said: Looking excellent to me Glynn! Very nicely done! Kind regards, Stix Stix, most kind thankyou, i appreciate it 3 hours ago, Big Person said: Glynn, it looks like I owe you an apology about the upper colour. It definitely should be all the dark colour! Andy Andy, definitely no apology necessary, constructive criticism is the best way to go, Sometimes as on this model for me, you go in blind, absolutely no research, or not much, i wasn't knowledgeable of the subject at all ,but it makes the build interesting because you tend to spend free Internet time researching, but alas there's a dearth of pictures on the net of these vehicles in this camo pattern, so I'm open to all advice and its all welcome, cheers keep up the good work on yours Glynn Edited October 17, 2017 by Hewy Spelling, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Looks fantastic Glynn, a very nice looking kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris B Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 No doubt not know how it should be painted, but as the job I say is brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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