Troy Smith Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 This is in the AVG photo album, but I've never seen a colour shot of a operational P-43 before P-43A Lancers and a C-47, Kunming, China - June 1942 by Brad Smith, on Flickr that one has Chinese insignia and the other US is interesting (awaiting repainting?) as is the camo demarcation on the rear fuselage (very wiggly) and the chalked '67' on the fin. I don't know much about the P-43, apart from doing some searching about the Australian ones, and have a Classic Airframes kit 'in the stash' so any more info on this would be of interest. cheers T 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Im aware of P-43's being used in the armed reconnaissance role by the USAAF. At least in the early months of the war. Though I've not personally looked for anything on the Lancer. I have come across that little bit while researching P-47's and their lineage. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Here's a coincidence for you......... http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?8841 I would guess it is one of a sequence as there are other pictures like it from different viewpoints. https://au.pinterest.com/pin/288511919859894300/ Note that one has Chinese insignia and the other US is interesting (awaiting repainting?) Note the camo demarcation on the rear fuselage (very wiggly) but there's no chalked '67' on the fin............... coincidence or what? I'm impressed with the bright colours and sharp rendition of that colour picture. Almost like it was taken with a digital camera in 1942! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Great find. Incidentally, a reminder of how dark Neutral Gray was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Ed Russell said: Here's a coincidence for you......... http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?8841 I would guess it is one of a sequence as there are other pictures like it from different viewpoints. https://au.pinterest.com/pin/288511919859894300/ Note that one has Chinese insignia and the other US is interesting (awaiting repainting?) Note the camo demarcation on the rear fuselage (very wiggly) but there's no chalked '67' on the fin............... coincidence or what? I'm impressed with the bright colours and sharp rendition of that colour picture. Almost like it was taken with a digital camera in 1942! Ed, Wow! Best references on the P-43 I have seen- thanks so much for sharing them! (Now, where's my MPM kit?) You can sure see Kartveli's design progression from the P-35A to the XP-72! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Seahawk said: a reminder of how dark Neutral Gray was. or how dark the colouriser thought it should be............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Ed Russell said: or how dark the colouriser thought it should be............. Ed, I don't think it's colourised. I know the guy who posted these images. He's the son of an AVG pilot and has access to some incredible colour images. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 It may well not be colourised but it sure looks it. The bold colours with precise edges, the clear detail in the aircraft but not the figures or background etc are hallmarks. There are so many skillfully done colourisations around that you almost assume any old colour picture is one. If i ever post one I always put a note about whether I think it's genuine or not. If this P-43 pic is not digitally altered it's an awesome quality find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 On 7/14/2017 at 8:28 PM, Troy Smith said: This is in the AVG photo album, but I've never seen a colour shot of a operational P-43 before P-43A Lancers and a C-47, Kunming, China - June 1942 by Brad Smith, on Flickr that one has Chinese insignia and the other US is interesting (awaiting repainting?) as is the camo demarcation on the rear fuselage (very wiggly) and the chalked '67' on the fin. I don't know much about the P-43, apart from doing some searching about the Australian ones, and have a Classic Airframes kit 'in the stash' so any more info on this would be of interest. cheers T Looks like the Chinese ground crew is putting the P-43's to probably their most useful purpose- providing shade! (Yes, I know- I'm one sick puppy!) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonelpablo Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 very interesting pic! I remember a pic of a P 43 in england whith a Malcom hood used for recce, but I am not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) On 16.07.2017 at 1:40 PM, Ed Russell said: Here's a coincidence for you......... http://axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?8841 I would guess it is one of a sequence as there are other pictures like it from different viewpoints. Ed, this is a fantactic set of photos (in above link). Thank you for sharing. Thank Troy for this thread an the first photo. "67" looks like a delivery flight mark, perhaps. Cheers J-W P.S. I've looked asided in the AVg Flickr and there are extremly nice photos of nature for example This is just to support that it could be original good quality colour film Edited September 23, 2017 by JWM added PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalea Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Decals for this aircraft were included in the Pavla kit of 2006. Admittedly the Chinese insignia were light blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Here's another one: I am not 100% certain but I believe the picture is from the now defunct Jeffrey J. Ethell collection site ... (Sad btw that that site obviously isn't maintained anymore). Looks like they used the early WWII US insignia blue and not a light blue here for the Chinese markings. There is another AC sans engine in the background (could it be a P-40 ?) where the rudder has been painted blue but no white stripes yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 hours ago, occa said: Here's another one: I am not 100% certain but I believe the picture is from the now defunct Jeffrey J. Ethell collection site ... (Sad btw that that site obviously isn't maintained anymore). Looks like they used the early WWII US insignia blue and not a light blue here for the Chinese markings. There is another AC sans engine in the background (could it be a P-40 ?) where the rudder has been painted blue but no white stripes yet. Looks like the aircraft in the background is indeed a P-40, and it appears to be a P-40K with the extension to the fin added to the early K being visible. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 ^^ Yes Mike, it crossed my mind too that the fin hints to an early K version with the fin fillet. Cheers Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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