06/24 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Although I have been doing some railway modelling, I have been going through a dry spell in terms of enthusiasm, productivity and just generally not getting anything done. Today, a broken boiler forced me to have an unexpected afternoon off. While I waited for the gas man, I made a start on what I hope will be a reasonably simple build to get me back into the swing of things. R4118, UP-W, Hurricane Mk1, 605 (County of Warwick) Squadron, RAF Croydon September 1940 / IWM Duxford September 2015 by jongwinnett, on Flickr I know the Airfix 1/48 Hurri isn’t perfect, but as an OOTB build it suits me. And as the kit markings include UP-W, which @procopius, @cedb and I saw at Duxford on our grand boys day out (was that really almost two years ago?) the choice of subject was straightforward. R4118, UP-W, Hurricane Mk1, 605 (County of Warwick) Squadron, RAF Croydon September 1940 / IWM Duxford September 2015 by jongwinnett, on Flickr I deviated from the instructions by building up the undercarriage box and main spar onto the lower wing before adding the cockpit tubular structure. I read of doing this in a magazine (Airfix?) and it certainly seems a more logical route, giving a square and sturdy foundation. R4118, UP-W, Hurricane Mk1, 605 (County of Warwick) Squadron, RAF Croydon September 1940 / IWM Duxford September 2015 by jongwinnett, on Flickr R4118, UP-W, Hurricane Mk1, 605 (County of Warwick) Squadron, RAF Croydon September 1940 / IWM Duxford September 2015 by jongwinnett, on Flickr R4118, UP-W, Hurricane Mk1, 605 (County of Warwick) Squadron, RAF Croydon September 1940 / IWM Duxford September 2015 by jongwinnett, on Flickr R4118, UP-W, Hurricane Mk1, 605 (County of Warwick) Squadron, RAF Croydon September 1940 / IWM Duxford September 2015 by jongwinnett, on Flickr It’s currently drying after a waft or two of Halfords aluminium. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Nice project and nice start I'll follow along if you don't mind? Roger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06/24 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Thanks Roger. by -jongwinnett- I have since painted the lower section aluminium, and here's a cruel enlargement of the cockpit framework by -jongwinnett- 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Good start. I hope your gas man was a bit more prompt than our washing-machine man this morning. In case you haven't found out already you will probably need to remove the tab at the bottom of the firewall as it can interfere with the front spar and prevent fuselage and wings from mating properly. On my next one I'll follow your example and build the cockpit up in situ on the lower wing rather than by "the book". Were your spars warped by any chance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06/24 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 A little yes. Not so much warped as bendy, there was no need to apply pressure to straighten them, the locating slots held them true. i've ordered a replacement panel, but had a quick go with the kit one to see how it looked: by -jongwinnett- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Nice start. I have one stalled as a Finnish I. Nice to put together albeit with some tight tolerances. Are you building 'as is' or 'as was'? I only ask because most if not all Hurricanes today have the MK.II tailwheel which for want of a better phrase is jointed rather than forked as per the MK.I. MK.I..... http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/mark_hayward/hurricane_mk1_l1592/images/hurricane_mk1_l1592_25_of_26.jpg and MK. II.... https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/hurricane/images/fhc_hurricane_13.jpg Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06/24 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 I shall take the lazy option and use whatever comes with the kit. This is, after all, a mojo restorer, or should be! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Max Headroom said: Nice start. I have one stalled as a Finnish I. Nice to put together albeit with some tight tolerances. Are you building 'as is' or 'as was'? I only ask because most if not all Hurricanes today have the MK.II tailwheel which for want of a better phrase is jointed rather than forked as per the MK.I. MK.I..... http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/mark_hayward/hurricane_mk1_l1592/images/hurricane_mk1_l1592_25_of_26.jpg and MK. II.... https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/hurricane/images/fhc_hurricane_13.jpg Trevor early Mk.II's had the straight tail wheel, Mk.I's were retrofitted with jointed type, P2617 in Hendon has this type from Training Command era. 21 minutes ago, 06/24 said: I shall take the lazy option and use whatever comes with the kit. This is, after all, a mojo restorer, or should be! You can't build R4118 'as is' from the box, wrong tailwheel, wrong prop. You can build 'as was' straight tail wheel and the blunt Rotol prop. One caution, either set of prop bladesfit either spinner, I have seen two build on here with DH Blades on the Rotol spinner Confused? You won't be after this weeks episode of 'Soap' * http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234980181-hawker-hurricane-propellers-and-spinners-a-modellers-guide/ HTH *only funny if you remember 'Soap' I'm afraid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_(TV_series) Edited June 8, 2017 by Troy Smith add details and links 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06/24 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Thanks for the info and the warning. "As was" will do nicely. Is there photographic evidence of it in 1940 condition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 He's back! Looking forward to this one Jon (even if it is a bit big). It won't be long before my eyesight takes me up a scale, I fear. Nice start - I like that cockpit framing and the i/p looks quite good eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06/24 Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Hi Ced! The IP is good enough that I wonder why I bothered ordering a replacement. Little enough of it will be visible anyway. I can take no credit for the framing, the kit is really rather good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, 06/24 said: Thanks for the info and the warning. "As was" will do nicely. Is there photographic evidence of it in 1940 condition? Not that I know of, there is a photo of R4118 in early 41 in 111 Sq, it was on a website about R4118 R4118-is-the-tail-end-Charlie-in-this-photograph-taken-in-March-1941 the blunt Spitfire Rotol prop is just visible Quote Hawker Hurricane Mk1 R4118 was delivered new to 605 (County of Warwick) Squadron at Drem on 17 August 1940. During the Battle of Britain it flew 49 sorties from Croydon and shot down five enemy aircraft. After being battle damaged on 22 October 1940, the aircraft was rebuilt and taken on charge by 111 Squadron at Dyce on 18 January 1941. There it was flown on patrol over the North Sea and was again in combat. Over the following two years it was used primarily as a training aircraft with 59 and 56 OTUs, and was rebuilt a further three times following major accidents, including hitting a lorry on the runway and being stuffed into a snowbank! In December 1943, R4118 was crated at Cardiff and shipped to India as a training aircraft. However it was never needed and remained in its packing case in Bombay until 1947 when it was struck off charge and donated to a university for engineering instruction. For use in India the prop was replaced by the De Havilland type, this was found badly corroded in India when found. If you have Netflix, Plane Ressurection has an episode of R4118. This is very small pic of R4105 see which is the nearest serial I know a photo of. I know the 111 Sq pi has the full tail stripes, but given the deleivery date, I think R4118 would most likely had the standard fin flash factory applied, as also seen below this is the only image floating about of a 605 Sq Hurricane during the BoB Note the 'font' of the code letters is different But without a photo of R4118 as UP-W, who knows. As it's a mojo restorer, I'd suggest just using the kit markings, but the Spitfire Rotol, doing it "As Was" (not as is as I wrote before) but you could probably cut down the fin flash if you wanted, it's 24 wide by 27 inch high, 8 inch stripes, which is 1/6th of an inch in 1/48. The minutiae of markings from this era is a headache, compounded by the lack of photos (illegal on active bases) if you fancy some background on this, I recommend this, still my 'go to' reference http://www.boxartden.com/gallery/index.php/Profiles/Camoflage-Markings/03-Hawker-Hurricane Hope this is of help/interest, doing a good job so far. cheers T Edited June 9, 2017 by Troy Smith correction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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