Bjorn Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I have seen pictures of Soviet missiles painted red. Does anybody know why? Most of them were white, but were these blind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, Bjorn said: I have seen pictures of Soviet missiles painted red. Does anybody know why? Most of them were white, but were these blind? Probably a red painted set used for publicity photo's or flight trials. Britmodeller had a similar question recently about a Grumman Cougar missile load. Selwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Soviet missiles рainted in red/orange color this is or mockup: or missile for tested: B.R. Serge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 The bright orange missiles were indeed for increased visibility during trial flights. Bombs were painted this way as well, incidentally. HTH, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michou Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Aardvark said: Soviet missiles рainted in red/orange color this is or mockup: The orange missile has MAKET stencilled on the body which is identical to the French word MAQUETTE and means MODEL. Google translate confirms this. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 6 hours ago, Michou said: The orange missile has MAKET stencilled on the body which is identical to the French word MAQUETTE and means MODEL. Google translate confirms this. Mike Forgive, but I not absolutely understand what you as the native speaker of Russian since the birth try to tell me? That I can't to read the word "МАКЕТ" written on a photo? And suddenly: http://translate.academic.ru/mockup/en/ru/ 2 mockup макет — engineering mockup — full-scale mockup — full-size mockup — installation mockup — mobility test mockup — provisional mockup — sectional mockup — static mockup Englsh-Russian aviation and space dictionary В.R. Serge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 So this means that the red missiles on the Yak-28P could be test missiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 On 08.06.2017 at 9:34 AM, Bjorn said: So this means that the red missiles on the Yak-28P could be test missiles? With 100 percentage confidence it is possible to tell about it if somewhere in the book the primary source of this photo where it will be written "Tests of rockets" is specified. So far everything that I have requested in Google by inquiries in Russian of "Yak-28 in LII", "Yak-28 to Akhtubinsk", "Test Yak-28" of results allowing it is unambiguous to identify this photo doesn't give. But high probability that it exactly photo of tests missile on Yak-28P. The Yak is in general in many respects difficult and somewhere a low-appeal subject. After war Yakovlev in many respects constantly I was late in comparison with competitors (it only seems that in the USSR there was no competition). Many planes weren't led up having not cured children's diseases, many were archaic designs as Yak-15, Yak-17, Yak-23. If Yak-25 (second) has got rather quite good responses, then Yak-28 and Yak-38 planes more than contradictory, received many offensive nicknames. Besides after war Yakovlev undertook both fighters, and passenger planes and helicopters, and light coherent / sports planes and the UAV and the landed artillery self-propelled cannons and for carrier AWACS aircraft.. naturally at such dispersion forces of defeats was more than success. Somewhere it was quite successful Yak-18 / Yak- 52 / Yak- 54 and quite good pass Yak-40 / Yak 42. Somewhere to please characteristics operational have been brought to flight characteristics as it was with not flown up Yak-140 which has lost MiG-21. About a level of difficulties and tasks hasn't allowed to make the normal plane, and the Yak-38 plane to normal and full-fledged Yak-141 which couldn't become on a wing in connection with the collapse of the USSR has turned out transitional. In a case with Yak-28P there was a set of factors, and outdated aerodynamic the scheme when Su-15 released later possessing the same radar possessed more best characteristics that has served as the reasons of creation of unsuccessful Yak-28-64. And commitment bicycle a wheel not convenient on operation on light planes of usual take-off. All this together with traditional privacy doesn't promote abundance of materials on Yak-28P. But the plane on the beautiful, in many respects become the business card of the Soviet Air Force in a 60-70a years. At the same time thanks to memoirs little-known in the West: L. L. Selyakov. "A thorny road in anywhere. Aircraft designer's notes." - M.: 4 - Voyenizdat's branch, M. 1997. and Adler E. G. "Earth and Sky. Aircraft designer's notes" the world behind the looking-glass of design office Yakovlev is known slightly more than for example of Mikoyan. B.R. Serge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 07.06.2017 at 1:50 PM, Bjorn said: I have seen pictures of Soviet missiles painted red. Does anybody know why? Most of them were white, but were these blind? This test-bed aircraft! Ridiculously, but the answer was before eyes all the time! Where I looked? Serial planes NOT HAD R-3 missile between the fuselage and the engine! Production planes had a missile on the ends of a wing! B.R. Serge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 To add to Serge's comments....... From Yefim Gordon's "Yak-25/26/27/28" book published by Aerofax....... After talking about the 'improved' Yak-28P (izdeliya 40) with firstly, a new longer nosecone.... he continues.... "Secondly, the number of missiles was doubled by adding two R-3S (K-13M1) IR-homing short-range AAMs. On the prototypes (51 Yellow and 01 Red) these were initially carried in Yak-27K fashion on pylons under the inner wings. However, tests showed that firing these missiles caused the engines to ingest missile exhaust gasses and flame out, and the extra pylons were relocated to the outer wings outboard of the standard pylons for the R-8M-1s. Interestingly, 01 Red carried four 'kill' markings under the cockpit to mark successful test launches. After passing State acceptance trials in 1966 the four-missile version of the Yak-28P entered production, replacing the original short-nosed version armed with only two Anabs" So 01 Red was used for missile-firing trials, hence the red missiles. Kyen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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