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      As most of you are now painfully aware, Photobucket (PB) are stopping/have stopped allowing their members to link their accumulated years of photos into forums and the like, which they call 3rd party linking.  You can give them a non-refundable $399 a year to allow links, but I doubt that many will be rushing to take them up on that offer.  If you've previously paid them for the Pro account, it looks like you've got until your renewal to find another place to host your files, but you too will be subject to this ban unless you fork over a lot of cash.   PB seem to be making a concerted move to another type of customer, having been the butt of much displeasure over the years of a constantly worsening user interface, sloth and advertising pop-ups, with the result that they clearly don't give a hoot about the free members anymore.  If you don't have web space included in your internet package, you need to start looking for another photo host, but choose carefully, as some may follow suit and ditch their "free" members at some point.  The lesson there is keep local backups on your hard drive of everything you upload, so you can walk away if the same thing happens.   There's a thread on the subject here, so please use that to curse them, look for solutions or generall grouse about their mental capacity.   Not a nice situation for the forum users that hosted all their photos there, and there will now be a host of useless threads that relied heavily on photos from PB, but as there's not much we can do other than petition for a more equitable solution, I suggest we make the best of what we have and move on.  One thing is for certain.  It won't win them any friends, but they may not care at this point.    Mike.
Old Man

A Brace o' Fairey Flycatchers, Scratch-Build in 1/72

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This is really informative and wonderful to watch.

 

Thank you for sharing, some really fascinating insights into how to approach scratch building with a little less fear.

 

The engines are works of art in their own right , now the airframes are developing beautifully.

 

:goodjob: 

TonyT

 

 

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20 hours ago, limeypilot said:

Those engines are works of art, and the fuselages certainly looked bent enough for Flycatchers! Lovely work, as always!

 

Ian

 

Thank you, Sir.

 

Things like the motors really are my strong suit --- lots of little bits, enough to dazzle by profusion, like a school of fish.

 

I can't help thinking the Flycatcher designer looked too long at an R.E. 8 and it imprinted somehing on his unprotected mind: 'I want to make one of those, only more....'

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16 hours ago, Martian Hale said:

I like the way these are going a lot. So much so in fact that I will probably end up going to Evilbay to see if I can score a 1/48 example and it will all be your fault!

 

Martian the weak of will.

 

Hope you can find one of those LifeLike/Impact kits, Sir. They are nice, especially nice for their time.

 

By the way, it's only recently it registered with me that it's not 'Martin' but 'Martian'....

 

I expect there's some story behind that.

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11 hours ago, TonyTiger66 said:

This is really informative and wonderful to watch.

 

Thank you for sharing, some really fascinating insights into how to approach scratch building with a little less fear.

 

The engines are works of art in their own right , now the airframes are developing beautifully.

 

:goodjob: 

TonyT

 

 

 

Thank you very much, Sir.

 

I'm not sure my methods would translate well to larger scales, and I don't kno what sizes you usually build in. But scratch-building is not so occult and arcane a business as many seem to think....

 

Thanks for the kind words about the engines. Making radials is something I have improved my techniques on quite a bit from when I started out. I will still occasionally source a motor from a kit for a build, mind, but after these I feel pretty sure I can make anything.

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I have only just found this - I had seen your earlier thread on the engines which are absolutely first class and mini-masterpieces in their own right. The fuselages are also coming on really well - very interesting indeed to see how you tackled them.

 

I was interested to read your comment that some scratch builders make components as though they are building a kit: I seem to follow that method although I have never really thought about it in that way. I also build things as I go along as you do too. Either way what you write about having the nerve and the rest will follow is in my opinion very true. There are many on this and other forums who add super scratch built detail to their models and play with PE: any of them could build from scratch if they really wanted too. I remember well my fears when I took the plunge, only to find that it was not nearly so hard as I had imagined. And it has the advantage that if it does not work the first time there is always the opportunity for another attempt.

 

P

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1 hour ago, Old Man said:

 

Hope you can find one of those LifeLike/Impact kits, Sir. They are nice, especially nice for their time.

 

By the way, it's only recently it registered with me that it's not 'Martin' but 'Martian'....

 

I expect there's some story behind that.

There is indeed! It is all down to our "esteemed" leader Mike. A couple of years ago I was building the Hand and Head kit of the Haunebu German flying saucer design, link here:

and Mike decided that I was one of the little green men from Mars and the name stuck. Strangely he kept out of my way at Telford last year! So there you go, you surely didn't expect some cleverly reasoned answer on BM did you?

 

Martian

 

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16 hours ago, Martian Hale said:

There is indeed! It is all down to our "esteemed" leader Mike. A couple of years ago I was building the Hand and Head kit of the Haunebu German flying saucer design, link here:

and Mike decided that I was one of the little green men from Mars and the name stuck. Strangely he kept out of my way at Telford last year! So there you go, you surely didn't expect some cleverly reasoned answer on BM did you?

 

Martian

 

Britmodeller's Official Alien

 

 

I see, Sir....

 

So you came down to earth to bring us this?

 

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Not the first kit I ever built, but certainly among the first. I distinctly remember the 'little green man' was actually in green plastic.

 

That was quite a build thread, by the way....

 

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17 hours ago, pheonix said:

I have only just found this - I had seen your earlier thread on the engines which are absolutely first class and mini-masterpieces in their own right. The fuselages are also coming on really well - very interesting indeed to see how you tackled them.

 

I was interested to read your comment that some scratch builders make components as though they are building a kit: I seem to follow that method although I have never really thought about it in that way. I also build things as I go along as you do too. Either way what you write about having the nerve and the rest will follow is in my opinion very true. There are many on this and other forums who add super scratch built detail to their models and play with PE: any of them could build from scratch if they really wanted too. I remember well my fears when I took the plunge, only to find that it was not nearly so hard as I had imagined. And it has the advantage that if it does not work the first time there is always the opportunity for another attempt.

 

P

 

Going to scratch-building was like a light-bulb going off in my head. I was looking at the F.E. 8 profile in the old Osprey number on RFC fighters in the first half of the Great War, and thinking yet again that I'd like to have a model of that, and it suddenly hit me --- I can make those shapes! I did treat it like a kit, though. I made the nacelle in two halves, and in my enthusiasm starting I also set up for 'Le Vengeur', the Type N militaire prototype flown by Gilbert, and I treated it the same way. I came to see it as unnecessarily complicated, it's not as if I was making masters for a mould, after all. The first one I did with this approach was a Boeing FB-1 (Naval version of the PW-9).

 

I quite agree with you that a great many modelers have the skill to do a bang-up job at this, even if they do not think so. I was pretty much a novice when I began, I had only been back at it for a couple of years.

 

And not only can you just do another if it doesn't come out right (no worry about messing up a part there's no extra for --- I used to always buy two kits for a build, just for insurance), you've only got your own standard of craftsmanship to match when you do have to fix something....

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A couple of other projects nudged to the fore lately, but I have gotten more done on this one.

 

The upper portion of the nose in front of the cockpit is now in place.

 

This was done on each with three piece of mm sheet, one for each side and a top piece, beveled to lower itself into the gap. These were placed so there would be plenty of plastic in hand when sanding down to section....

 

 

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Here are both sanded down to final shape, in profile and section....

 

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Next step will be to do the instrument panels, and a few other last minute interior bits, then put on the cockpit decking....

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Nice to see you getting back to this one, OM! Those definitely look like Flycatcher fuselages.

 

Regards,

 

Jason

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Shaping up really well!

 

Martian

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Looking good OM!

 

Ian

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18 hours ago, Learstang said:

Nice to see you getting back to this one, OM! Those definitely look like Flycatcher fuselages.

 

Regards,

 

Jason

 

Thank you, Sir. It should progress more quickly now. I went back into the spoke wheel mines to improve my results tere, and it chewed up a lot of time. I will be posting up results a little later.

 

15 hours ago, Martian Hale said:

Shaping up really well!

 

Martian

 

Thank you, Sir. I'm kind of looking forward to doing the instrument panels. Cockpit decking, not so much --- that is going to b tricky....

 

14 hours ago, limeypilot said:

Looking good OM!

 

Ian

 

Thank you, Sir!

 

Glad you looked in on it. If all goes well, I ought to be setting to the wings before the weekend is out.

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Instrument panels are now finished and installed.

 

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These follow pretty closely the official drawing reproduced in the MMP Flycatcher monograph. Instrument bezels are from 34 ga wire, coiled, cut, and flattened in a smooth-jawed pliers. 'Placards' are foil stuck on with Future, painted black, and scraped a bit with a toothpick. The slanting bit in the center I believe is a fuel gauge of glass, it is a bit of thin rod painted a bit amber, the little curve at the center is similar, a spirit level serving as a bank indicator. Instrument bezels were filled first with black paint, then given a lick of white with a toothpick point, and filled several times with Future.

 

Here are a few more pictures, a kind of farewell to the interior, before the cockpit decking is contrived; the opening on this is actually pretty small, and I wonder how much of this will be visible once that is settled....

 

 

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Those cockpits look great! In keeping with the rest of the build...

 

Regards,

Adrian

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Yes excellent work and nice tips on the home brew instrument bezels.

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Very nice work indeed on the instrument panels, OM! Like you say, not much will be visible once all is in its place, but it's still nice to know the detail is there.

 

Regards,

 

Jason

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Gorgeous!  (And SO tiny...)

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These are really coming to life now OM! Gorgeous!

 

Slowly but surely you are instilling in me the resolve to one day scratch build a Parnall Peto, not that I suspect there'll be an MMP monograph on this particular aircraft anytime soon....

 

Keep up the great work, it's much appreciated.

 

Tony

 

 

 

 

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On 7/17/2017 at 1:25 PM, AdrianMF said:

Those cockpits look great! In keeping with the rest of the build...

 

Regards,

Adrian

 

Thanks, Adrian.

 

It's one of the busiest cockpits I've tried in a while, and even so I've left a good deal out.

 

On 7/17/2017 at 1:36 PM, Tomoshenko said:

Yes excellent work and nice tips on the home brew instrument bezels.

 

Thank you, Sir.

 

You can vary the size by the size of the rod or stiff wire you wrap the soft wire around for a coil. You want the former a bit undersized, the wire itself, flattened, will add about a third of a millimeter to the diameter. Make lots --- some will be dropped.

 

On 7/17/2017 at 1:40 PM, Learstang said:

Very nice work indeed on the instrument panels, OM! Like you say, not much will be visible once all is in its place, but it's still nice to know the detail is there.

 

Regards,

 

Jason

 

Glad you like it, Sir.  certainly more will be visible in person than to a camera, I expect.

 

On 7/17/2017 at 1:50 PM, Ex-FAAWAFU said:

Gorgeous!  (And SO tiny...)

 

Thank you, Sir. I have heard of people working in larger scales, but scarcely credit such tales....

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23 hours ago, TheBaron said:

These are really coming to life now OM! Gorgeous!

 

Slowly but surely you are instilling in me the resolve to one day scratch build a Parnall Peto, not that I suspect there'll be an MMP monograph on this particular aircraft anytime soon....

 

Keep up the great work, it's much appreciated.

 

Tony

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you, Sir.

 

I hope you do it. That is an interesting little aeroplane, and the submarine it was on a fascinating subject as well.

 

I expect one would need resort to creative gizmology for the interior, although information from the better covered Plover and Panther might show a company pattern that could be helpful.

 

You could always put a pair of likely lads in sidcots in the crew positions, it's a good look and covers a lot of blank space.

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