Leonl Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Nice work Ced. A very pleasant catch up read! Is it me or have you slowed your build rate down in retirement?? Just saying... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I'm out of likes again Ced. The 'burglar signs on the sash windows' is the sort of thing I've done in the past, without the useful moment of realisation . Sash windows; ropes, weights and sometimes mouldy frames. Not to mention sometimes being clarted in around 150 years worth of layers of paint. Once they are refurbished they look superb. I was always a little sad to see houses that once had sash windows, have them replaced with plastic 'modern' windows. I'm a little old fashioned and traditionalist about vernacular architecture. Just to put my 5p in with regard to the wheels; I think it was originally Giorgio's suggestion; but you could also squidge in a bit of blue or white tak behind them too, to lessen the possibility of them coming adrift. I'm still getting a lot of enjoyment from the bizarre shape of those exhausts . Best regards TonyT 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 As above A small sprue cylinder behind the wheel and two strips aside , if possible would also be my idea. Cheers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 3 hours ago, The Spadgent said: Could you glue a bit of sprue at the rear of the wheel and the door part? By where the clip is it the photo. I used 1/24 angled Airfix sprue bits during my Bf109 build to stop accidentally pushing bits in and strengthening joins. I guess you could use regular sprue bits though. Just a thought. great work btw. Johnny. 1 hour ago, bbudde said: As above A small sprue cylinder behind the wheel and two strips aside , if possible would also be my idea. Cheers Thanks Johnny (especially as you're on holiday, what dedication!) and Benedikt - good ideas. I've since dribbled some CA gel down the sides of the wheels, my main concern being that anything else would 'close the gap' and spoil the look. Now I've turned them over I don't think it'll be a problem: Thanks Alex - yes, it's good to see PC back 2 hours ago, Leonl said: Nice work Ced. A very pleasant catch up read! Is it me or have you slowed your build rate down in retirement?? Just saying... Thanks Leon - yes, I have slowed down. Temporarily, maybe. I promised myself I'd do nothing for two weeks or until I got bored, neither of which has happened yet... but still trying! 1 hour ago, TonyTiger66 said: I'm out of likes again Ced. The 'burglar signs on the sash windows' is the sort of thing I've done in the past, without the useful moment of realisation . Sash windows; ropes, weights and sometimes mouldy frames. Not to mention sometimes being clarted in around 150 years worth of layers of paint. Once they are refurbished they look superb. I was always a little sad to see houses that once had sash windows, have them replaced with plastic 'modern' windows. I'm a little old fashioned and traditionalist about vernacular architecture. Just to put my 5p in with regard to the wheels; I think it was originally Giorgio's suggestion; but you could also squidge in a bit of blue or white tak behind them too, to lessen the possibility of them coming adrift. I'm still getting a lot of enjoyment from the bizarre shape of those exhausts . Best regards TonyT Thanks TT. When living in my mates house in Beaufort East (big Georgian houses) he took out each window and refurbished them. Easy(ish) actually and something I may do. There are lots of videos on YouTube and I may think about double glazed replacement glass and brush insulation. One day. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 Milliput. Sausages and twists: One of the benefits of using this method, apart from the ease of mixing, is that you can see if you've cut off too much of one part and, if so, even up the sausage and stick the excess back in the packet. (I'm not sure why but I feel a fnaar fnaar is required here!) Still mixed too much of course: Even though, while filling the gaps in the nacelles where the intakes aren't, I must have pushed half a ton of the stuff inside before it stuck. Sometimes I get on really well with this stuff and sometimes it drives me a bit potty. I think it's because I'm not waiting long enough between the 'sticky' and 'mouldable' phases of the curing. Maybe. Still not perfect but I'll let it dry overnight and sand tomorrow. As if that wasn't frustrating enough, I pushed in one of the windows while trying to fill it: "Oh lummy, what a whoopsie" I said, or words to that effect. Any bright ideas to fill the window gap chaps? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael51 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 11 hours ago, CedB said: Part-painted (lazy) wheels balanced on the doors and glued: Untitled by Ced Bufton, on Flickr There seems to be no other way of mounting these so I just hope I don't push one back in during handling (snurf titter). Back of the radiator thingies sanded and general tidy-up around the nacelles: Masking mojo - use it or lose it! No masks for the Z nose so tape, cocktail stick and #6 blade. The frames on the main nose part are indistinct so I'm expecting to have to clean up later: I've also removed the mask on the lower windows and cut it down on the upper ones - we'll see what it looks like but I may dab some Milliput in there later. Now that was done, a fun bit - I was able to position and glue 'Michael's Bomb Aimer': Nice! Ced, Good to see an RAAF Dominion type on board! Michael 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 Thanks Michael - especially for donating the original figure OK, encouraged by a couple of glasses of red I thought "I could get the window out with my new crocodile tweezers" so I did: Then I thought "Oooh, I could sand that down and glue it in the gap" so I did: A quick session with a riffler file should sort that. In the morning. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 That's a very neat solution to the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) Oh, that was a great save! Which red wine exactly, please? I think I should add that to the list of modelling tools Ciao Edited July 27, 2017 by giemme 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 On cracking form with that window recovery there Ced! Could I ask what a riffler file is and what particular uses it has? It's not that I need another tool you understand... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spadgent Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 excelent save sir. Johnny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddy Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Have you given any though as to how to deal with the perspex observation blister on the underside of the fuselage yet Ced? It can be see in the pic, just any of the H2S dome. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 Thanks Simon - and I think it actually worked (see below) Thanks Giorgio - very kind. I don't think it matters what sort of wine it is but Mrs B says it's called 'what was on offer' Thanks Tony - riffler files were recommended by Mr Fritag and Bill and they're little ones with bent ends... I bought my set from here. Riffle riffle Thanks Johnny Thanks chaddy - luckily JB910 is 'an early' and doesn't have the window or the bumpy bit. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! The window fix worked - some gentle action with a small flat file, then a smaller one, then sanding and a final scribe: Small files, not the six incher. No, naughty, I meant the second cut half round file, NOT that - I'm not cutting mine in half for anyone, fnaar fnaar! Also tidied up the Milliput on the nacelles: I've glued the radiator flaps in a semi-open position now to make a feature of them. I've glued the bomb bay doors on, closed. I did use the six inch for this as a test (for me) and crikey, the way a few gentle strokes get rid of sprue nubs is impressive. If you're gentle there's no scratching either. Great tool, thanks Bill Tail and turrets. Nearly ready for some paint? I'll check the instructions to make sure the five thousand parts left on the sprues shouldn't go somewhere. Oh, and props and spinners. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 48 minutes ago, CedB said: I don't think it matters what sort of wine it is but Mrs B says it's called 'what was on offer' Oh no, no, no - you and I should have a word about this matter, away from Mrs B hearing range Ciao 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Nice save Ced, at it again Fnar Fnar!!! The "Red Thinking Juice" works wonders, does it not. Bringing this one together very nicely, with the additions also. Simon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddy Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) 'Thanks chaddy - luckily JB910 is 'an early' and doesn't have the window or the bumpy bit. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! ' Unfortunately Ced the very fact that it is an 'early one' means that it does have the blister underneath. Apart from the fact I have an eyewitness account I also have the 'proof'..... Edit: There is a well known pic of JB911 at Elvington in July 1943 that shows the same feature...and on the aircraft on the ground, so...... Edited July 27, 2017 by chaddy 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonl Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 5 hours ago, giemme said: Which red wine exactly, please? I think I should add that to the list of modelling tools Of course... you can use the foil as well! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Leonl said: Of course... you can use the foil as well! Yes of course - although the Best one I've used so far came from champagne bottles ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, giemme said: Yes of course - although the Best one I've used so far came from champagne bottles ... Booze again G. how do you stay sober to build the models LOL Simon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Spookytooth said: Booze again G. how do you stay sober to build the models LOL Simon. It may sound like I'm an addicted, but in fact with a single bottle you can go a long way, from a modelling point of view .... Ciao 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) A gentle, genial few minutes playing catchup, looking lovely Ced A tad worried about the lateral thinking requirements though Think about it, large wheel needs location firmly up in a ole wi' norralot behind it to give it grip Simplicity looms Cut one of said large wheels in half and glue a piece of plastic across the cut bit and glue plastic to side walls of nacelle, inside it Job done AND a new spare wheel in spares box, just in case... 😀 I am pleased to see you are beginning to be beguiled by the six inch, half round, second cut I believe The Saviour would have been happy to extoll their virtues during a talk on a mountain if they'd been introduced way back then.. Edited July 27, 2017 by perdu 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Thanks for the that file link Ced! 41 minutes ago, perdu said: I believe The Saviour would have been happy to extoll their virtues during a talk on a mountain if they'd been introduced way back then.. Would that be The Sermon on the Half-Round? Bless you Brother Perdu for your missionary work amongst us poor heathens. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael51 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 6 hours ago, chaddy said: 'Thanks chaddy - luckily JB910 is 'an early' and doesn't have the window or the bumpy bit. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! ' Unfortunately Ced the very fact that it is an 'early one' means that it does have the blister underneath. Apart from the fact I have an eyewitness account I also have the 'proof'..... Edit: There is a well known pic of JB911 at Elvington in July 1943 that shows the same feature...and on the aircraft on the ground, so...... Hi Chaddy, That's intriguing. Is it an observation blister or a perspex cover for a fuselage-mounted appendage? From the photographs and drawings to hand here, this does not seem a standard fitting for srs1 or srs2 versions. It appears to be the exception more than the rule. Whatever its function, I wondered whether it might be a surplus-to-requirement nose side observation blister put to some other use. It appears to be absent on the Mk IIIs although at p.60 of my copy of Brian Rapier's 'Halifax at War', one of these blisters appears on a side view drawing of a Merlin-engined Halifax with D type rudders. I do not know what it is although I wish I did, Michael 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Ced, you could have just rubbed it with a wet finger and the milliput would have adhered nicely to the gap and you would not have needed to sand. Any way, good to see this cracking along and looking so good! Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddy Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 37 minutes ago, Michael Enright said: Hi Chaddy, That's intriguing. Is it an observation blister or a perspex cover for a fuselage-mounted appendage? From the photographs and drawings to hand here, this does not seem a standard fitting for srs1 or srs2 versions. It appears to be the exception more than the rule. Whatever its function, I wondered whether it might be a surplus-to-requirement nose side observation blister put to some other use. It appears to be absent on the Mk IIIs although at p.60 of my copy of Brian Rapier's 'Halifax at War', one of these blisters appears on a side view drawing of a Merlin-engined Halifax with D type rudders. I do not know what it is although I wish I did, Michael It's an observation blister. The original Merlin engined Halifax lacked poke and squadrons took all possible measures to reduce weight and generally 'clean up' the aircraft. One of these measures was the removal of the MU turret. At the same time they were aware of the problem of night fighter attacks from below and behind. You are correct to say that they utilised surplus side observation blisters for this purpose. Having removed the mid upper turret the surplus to requirements gunner spent his time lying on his belly keeping a lookout for enemy aircraft. That is the sole purpose of the blister. I had this confirmed by a F/E of 10 Sqn, who was on the squadron Feb 43 to Sept 43. There is even a Mod Number for it if I can find it in my records. Of course later improvements to the performance of the MkIIs (from late spring early/ 1943) allowed the installation of the lower profile MU turret, and the gunner returned to his original occupation. There is absolutely no doubt that JB910 had one such blister. There are a number of pics of 10 Sqn aircraft so equipped. There are also photographs showing MK11s with the new MU turret and the blister, (see pic). The only thing Im not sure of is if the likes of JB910 and JB911 left the factory with them fitted and the MU turret removed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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