CedB Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Looking good Bill. Hopefully the weather will improve soon and enable a paint session 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Looking good (and tiny ) Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 I have tackled one of the little jobs which have been niggling me tonight The Observer has a perspex/plexiglass type of clear blast screen between him and his chauffeur and getting its curve and location right has been a bane I gave it another shot this evening but I am finding it very difficult to get the curve without the tweezers creasing the very thin acetate How does this look ? Hmm looks invisible to me although it does need a thin black edge trim piece adding nah this one is even worserer Better pictures when I edge the screen in black, sorry 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairystick Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 22 hours ago, perdu said: The Observer has a perspex/plexiglass type of clear blast screen between him and his chauffeur and getting its curve and location right has been a bane How does this look Rectangular base and a curved top edge. A bit of a challenge to see from here, but guessing shape isn't the issue. To me it appears too tall though. From my piccies it seems that the top edge of the screen is about 1/3rd of the way down the pilot's headbox on the bang-seat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I use small cutoffs from packing material when I need a curved windscreen. I can usually find the right curve somewhere among my packaging, but admittedly I have too much plastic lying around.... Ian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 hours ago, limeypilot said: but admittedly I have too much plastic lying around.... Who doesn't? I like your idea for curved clear bits, Ian Bill, I have no idea about that screen shape and size, but it shows up well in your pics Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Cheers chaps, hairystick I know it needs to be lower however last night the idea was to get the screen in place Today I should be able to trim the screen lower now it is firmly fixed in place by my new bottle of 560 I expect one of us has a new bottle too, I went back on Amazon to order 'another one of these' to discover the little box saying 'product unavailable, it is not known if further supplies can be expected' or words of that ilk, in that vein Oh well! 😕 Edited February 7, 2018 by perdu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, perdu said: The Observer has a perspex/plexiglass type of clear blast screen between him and his chauffeur and getting its curve and location right has been a bane Be careful with this Bill, the observers blast screen was only fitted towards the end of the S.1 service life. Without checking (I will do when I get home) I think it was right toward the end of their carrier period and only some airframes getting it at that point. Might be a case of checking the airframe that you are modelling - apologies if you have already taken this into account and please disregard if you have info to the the contrary. unfortunately I can't see your pics due to works computer, but I'm sure it's cracking work as usual! Edited February 7, 2018 by 71chally 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Glad to see some movement on the old Bucc Bill. Airfix comes with a blast screen but I haven't fitted mine yet but it may need replacing with something 'thinner'. Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the heads up on that I will be making her one of those optioned on the decalsheet I bought I'll check and decide this afternoon Gotta make a decision some day, turns out that day is Wednesday 7th February Who knew? 😁 Edited February 7, 2018 by perdu 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I'm guessing that you have the From the cockpit Buccaneer S.1 book Bill. If you haven't I can check any likely candidates for your choice of build. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 I don't actually have that James, my superb research team can usually answer all of the intimate detail questions 😊 I know I want the higher rear cheat line version of the scheme, but it needs to tally with the serial numbers I have a chance to use on it ( I'll let you know which when I sort out which one it'll be thanks Mr Researcherer) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Can see your pics now, superb work, blast screen looks just so! Looks like a nice Gannet spinner as well! HMS EAGLE. © IWM (HU 99657) TWO BUCCANEER STRIKE AIRCRAFT OVER HMS EAGLE, 1964. © IWM (TR 23143) IWM Non Commercial License Edited February 7, 2018 by 71chally 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Thank you James, the die, she is cast XN953 800 NAS HMS Eagle 1964 sound OK? Aircraft number 109 and with the badge on the diamond shaped red patch and the raised grey/white demarkation we discussed before seen here on 103 The MA detail instructions show centre of the nib fairing to the tail tip, I feel the raised curved line looks better She gets it I could probably cobble up the 103 serial code but the larger white outline for the 3 would have to be a lash-up, so 109 it is! Edited February 7, 2018 by perdu 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 22 hours ago, perdu said: How does this look? Hmm looks invisible to me although it does need a thin black edge trim piece adding nah this one is even worserer I can't see it, but there's a very nice spinner at the side!!! and it's focused!!! I'd say you just need to stand a bit back when you take pictures. Anyway I can see the perspex on the first picture and I think you caught the shape!And this bit can be a real nightmare!!! Well done!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 I get what you are saying Massimo think you the other object caught the autofocus and lost me the foreground That top bulge on the radome needs some lovin'care Hmm 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, perdu said: The MA detail instructions show centre of the nib fairing to the tail tip, I feel the raised curved line looks better Ahh, I see what you mean, like this, http://www.blackburn-buccaneer.co.uk/S1_XN953_files/S1_XN953a.html I was thinking you meant the later scheme with the higher demarkation all round, ala' http://www.blackburn-buccaneer.co.uk/S1_XN934_files/0_S1_XN934-1.html There is a good spread of colour 800 sqn S.1s in the book in the '64-'65 period but they don't have the screen. There is a shot of '106' belly landed with the screen in Jul '66, but no unit badge. If it helps, all their Buccs seem to have the fixed refuelling probe. c.1964 is the era that Navy aircraft had that weird goldy/green coating on undercarriages etc I think 1964 may be too early for that screen - but this is modelling! Have you noticed that you can click and enlarge the IWM pictures to screen size now, first time I have seen that! PS the Bullpups would look nice! Edited February 7, 2018 by 71chally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 At the end of her service with 736 Squadron, XN953 had the observer's blast screen. I have no idea if this was fitted in your time scale though. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Bullpups... It is quite possible I have a Bullpup or two in my bombeyrockettanky box Hmm Yes James I think I want to keep the centre join scheme Thanks I have trimmed the possibly redundant blast screen and it seems about right now I will pop off a picture tomorrow, you can tell me, however to my eye it looks just about right where it is in Scimitar's shot of her in the latter days Hmm that shiny EDSG radome is enticing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Scimitar said: At the end of her service with 736 Squadron, XN953 had the observer's blast screen. I have no idea if this was fitted in your time scale though. That's XN957 at the FAAM museum. 953 ended up in the all over EDSG scheme and was eventually crisped at Predannack, Pete Mitrovich - Flickr Most of the later 736 sqn jets did have the screen fitted, as reflected by the majority of preserved S.1s Edited February 7, 2018 by 71chally 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 23 minutes ago, 71chally said: That's XN957 at the FAAM museum. ..of course it is . Wee clue in '630' You are a bad man showing an almost dead '953 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 I agree wiv 'im But I do accept we couldn't possibly have kept all of every type we owned, not having a million square miles of Davis Monthan type land lying around unused Still makes you weep though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Culdrose wasn't a good place for old Buccs S.1S to go to. Two S.1s ended up with the fire school at Predannack, you can also see XN934 clinging on for dear life in the background in the above shot, while XN954 moved on to become a movie star - being pushed off Ark Royal in Apr 74 for a Flight Safety film. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) I have decided a decide This picture is inconclusive but seems to be in the suitable time frame Nice picture including the inner and outer pylons I thought initially that the light thing in front of the observer's mush was the white roofed building behind him and was going to whip the screen out, breathing a sigh of relief But taking a better look at the airframe I note an anomaly, a white replacement intake duct on the fin I am presuming this machine has been the benefactor of the usual MOD penchant for reducing to spares others in the fleet and that the duct was off an all-white machine About to abandon the screen I took a closer look, dammit, I swear that is the screen just obscuring the obbo's face Back to square one, I will keep the screen Progress is being made with the outer wings, the hinges have been affixed in place with in the roots ready, almost for paint I am hoping for better paint this time, I had considered lightening the grey 'big time' but as the picture here of 640 shows deeply dark grey I will use Jamie's paint straight from the tin, airbrushed by my cheapo Chinese a/b Edited February 9, 2018 by perdu 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) I would agree with you there Bill, a screen, however that is a 736 sqn jet in 1967. I have been searching tirelessly on this (for my benefit I must say!) and have found this superb gallery featuring 800 sqn 1965-66 on Eagle. You can draw your own conclusions from the pictures, especially of '106' - I think it provides some good news! https://get.google.com/albumarchive/105650755591531455869/album/AF1QipOIEJYXNSbII72CwjQdHkf27MBGjmEyfOK8q9SA The ejection and rescue sequences are especially interesting, and humbling. Edited February 9, 2018 by 71chally 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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