rattle can and postage £20 is there another way if postage required ?

[Merlin]

Hi, Trying to get Mr Hobby rattle cans, royal mail wont deliver, and courier is same price as can so £20 for one can of primer.

 

Nuts

 

Anyone found a shop selling Mr Hobby without crazy delivery fees ?

 

Merlin

[Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies]

If you do find someone selling without similar postage costs, it's probably illegal.

[LaurieS]

A crazy situation actually exists. UK traders have great problems delivering goods.

 

In China Japan Taiwan these goods which UK traders have difficulty with are shipped to

the UK by traders in these countries. The crazy part is on top of this the Post Office

is delivering this stuff free of charge.

 

All the items which the Royal Mail refuse to deliver are not stocked by UK retailers

and those items are then ordered from the above countries and delivered by the

Royal Mail. Can you imagine anything so bizarre ?

Laurie

 

 

[Jetblast]

RM will not accept hazardous goods per-se, but they are doing end point delivery for the vast majority of Parcelforce deliveries & these can legitimately contain declared hazardous goods......  confusing.

 

A guess tells me that this is because RM can't guarantee "by road" transport for UK deliveries & regularly use air for premium services & when contracted air freight space allows, not so premium services as well. Parcelforce on the other hand trunk by road & avoid the complication of air.

 

It still doesn't answer why all sorts of hazardous & prohibited items are coming in from abroad by regular (and sometimes unbelievably cheap) mail, ranging from "regular" hazardous goods like aerosols, to fireworks & a whole lot more.... 

[Steve Noble]

15 hours ago, Merlin said:

Hi, Trying to get Mr Hobby rattle cans, royal mail wont deliver, and courier is same price as can so £20 for one can of primer.

 

Nuts

 

Anyone found a shop selling Mr Hobby without crazy delivery fees ?

 

Merlin

 

I'm assuming you don't use an airbrush? If you do you can get Mr Color jar paints and airbrush them. As far as I'm aware they have the same range of colours as the rattle cans. A few places stock them, Hiroboy being one place of the top of my head. He also does the primers as well I think and they are a lot cheaper than £20 too...

[Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies]

15 hours ago, Jetblast said:

RM will not accept hazardous goods per-se, but they are doing end point delivery for the vast majority of Parcelforce deliveries & these can legitimately contain declared hazardous goods......  confusing.

 

A guess tells me that this is because RM can't guarantee "by road" transport for UK deliveries & regularly use air for premium services & when contracted air freight space allows, not so premium services as well. Parcelforce on the other hand trunk by road & avoid the complication of air.

 

It still doesn't answer why all sorts of hazardous & prohibited items are coming in from abroad by regular (and sometimes unbelievably cheap) mail, ranging from "regular" hazardous goods like aerosols, to fireworks & a whole lot more.... 

 

This is exactly our understanding of the situation. It appears that imports are not checked especially rigorously for DG content. Customs will pick up tax opportunities and contraband items like ivory but should be destroying all packages coming into the UK containing incorrectly labelled restricted and prohibited items. Since they don't, the carriers such as Royal Mail end up carrying things they expressly prohibit because of deception and concealment on the part of foreign senders and frankly a disregard and/or ignorance on the part of the UK purchaser. Of course there would be hell to pay if some accident befell a UK aircraft which was attributed to carrying undisclosed dangerous goods "How can this happen? Someone should do something about it" etc etc etc but the fact is that flammable liquids are illegal to send without LQ diamond stickers on the outside of the package. If there's an LQ sticker, then it has to go either by road under ADR rules (with ADR trained drivers) or packaged and certified for air transport under IATA rules by IATA certified persons - which costs hundreds.

 

The long and the short of it is that if you buy flammable liquids from someone who isn't paying a tenner or more for DG postage in the UK, your package will be almost certainly be in the post illegally and exposing someone, somewhere to a risk that they are taking either unknowingly or unwillingly. As Jetblast says, anything without an LQ sticker is likely to find itself chucked onto an aircraft for inter-city transport which it should absolutely not be under any circumstances.

 

Unfortunately too many will just shrug their shoulders and justify their actions to themselves on the basis that they feel a bit skint and consider that it's the sender's problem if their purchase is sent illegally.

[Troy Smith]

21 hours ago, Merlin said:

Hi, Trying to get Mr Hobby rattle cans, royal mail wont deliver, and courier is same price as can so £20 for one can of primer.

 

Nuts

 

Anyone found a shop selling Mr Hobby without crazy delivery fees ?

 

Merlin

 

Where in the UK are you?   See if anywhere  nearby stocks the item.

 

You asked about priming resin, 

 

I note  also that you are basing your search on this

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Resin has oils inherent in the stuff, which will leach through paint, so I hear, so even if given a good scrub with fairy liquid then sprayed with e.g. Halfords grey primer, in time it will show, it is said.

 

Has anyone experience of this ?

 

Resin primers are few and far between, so is there really a need for a dedicated resin primer ?

 

 

which is what you want  it for?    Maybe look for an alternative,  some type of car or  industrial primer.   But, you maybe just chasing a non issue, as poster in linked thread pointed out,  if it weeps, it's defective,   and I have not read of the need for a dedicated primer.

You may find this is in fact a non-issue,  or,  be specific,  what brand  of resin kit or part are you trying to  paint?    Look up  other builds or  users of said  company, and see if they have a problem

 

you were recommended this

http://www.hiroboy.com/Etch_Primer_for_MetalResin_120ml--product--3145.html

 

I note   it's a a two part system,  and as with  a lot of  modelling items,  you can often  find something similar for something else.

For  example, years ago I  used a very hard two  part varnish for wooden stairs,  PV67, IIRC,   need to be used with a organic solvent mask,   but was pretty bomb proof, being designed for high traffic areas,  eg gyms.

 

@Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies  is also a car buff,  as well as running Sovereign Hobbies, he might  know something available in the UK that might do  what you are asking.

 

HTH

 

PS looked  into this for example?  I just put 'etch primer'into google

 

http://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repair/primer/halfords-etch-primer-500ml

 

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Halfords Etch Primer 500ml

Halfords Etch Primer is a specialist primer with improved adhesion to problem surfaces. It is highly flexible and has been designed to fill slight cracks and indentations.

Halfords Etch Primer Extra Info

• Acid etching formula action
• Ideal surface preparation aid
• Excellent adhesion to metals, aged paint finishes and most rigid plastics
• Ideal for improving adhesion to problem substrates : aluminium, galvanised steel etc
• Highly flexible and quick drying
• Compatible with Halfords enamel and automotive colour matched paints

 

Edited May 24, 2017 by Troy Smith
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[Jetblast]

5 hours ago, Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies said:

 

As Jetblast says, anything without an LQ sticker is likely to find itself chucked onto an aircraft for inter-city transport which it should absolutely not be under any circumstances.

 

I get the impression that once something is initially accepted into RM's system, via depot or hub it gets the green stamp to proceed without any further intervention, that's fine, but I get the impression that;

 

Deliveries from abroad are accepted into the system on the basis of being properly checked at the originating location without question.

Deliveries originating from the UK regardless of their destination are far more stringently checked. I've had numerous deliveries end up at RM's National Returns Depot in Belfast for "fake" reasons, one of which sticks in my mind - Customer orders a compact spray gun on Special Delivery & it gets sent straight to Belfast after x-ray scanning as it resembles a firearm (pistol grip I assume), a replacement order sent out by 2nd class post (to avoid air), but due to spare air capacity it ends up going by air, the paint cup union rattles much like a rattle can assuring an x-ray inspection, inspection reveals a metal cylinder-ish thing (the paint cup) which must be an aerosol & the 2nd order is on it's way to Belfast as well..... To add insult to injury it took several weeks to get the stock back on the shelf.