BetaSingh Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) I looked at the thread categories, but wasn't sure where this category would go, so I put it under 'Real Aviation', but please move if appropriate. I am going to the Netherlands in May, and as many of you may have heard about, they have a very good modelling shop called Aviation Megastore, outside Schiphol. I was looking through their website and found their prices quite a fair bit cheaper than that in the UK, finding I could save nearly £7 on my models of choice alone. So I thought, great, while everything is cheap, why not stock up on some glue and paints, so I am thinking about buying some glue and 4 Humbrol Enamel Paints. My question is, are they allowed on planes, should i put them in hold or a handbag, and are they dangerous, and if they are allowed, what is the best way that you guys suggest I should take them back to the UK. All answers appreciated BetaSingh Edited April 29, 2017 by BetaSingh Clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troffa Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 As Humbrol Enamels are Flammable, data sheet here: https://www.accesstoretail.com/uploads/documentation/ACF721F.pdf you are not allowed to have them in your baggage, either hand, or hold. BA Regulations here: https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/baggage-essentials/liquids-and-restrictions This is because the 200 ml of enamel paint your 4 tinlets will contain pose a significant fire risk, (along with the 20 tons of aviation fuel and 200 litres of duty free scotch on your average flight) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaSingh Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 It is around 48ml, not 200ml, will that make a difference, or am I better off buying acrylics, and will they be allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troffa Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 British Airways state "paints (excl. water-based artist paints or artists' oil paints), solvents, varnish, etc." as prohibited. So if you can get some water based Acrylics you should be OK, but even Tamiya Acrylics are Flammable and as such are also prohibited. Not really worth the risk for a few tins of Humbrol in my opinion. But that will leave more room for kits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieS Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Actually I believe that you are OK with enamels providing they are of a size and type within the wording in the BA. Which states. Paints (excl. water-based artist paints or artists' oil paints), solvents, varnish, etc. I live in Jersey Channel Isles and all the Tamiya stuff is flown in. The size matters I am sure ie the size that an artist would use. They all come in plastic heat sealed bags. To be sure I would email them and explain what you want to do. Any affirmative reply take with you to show on your journey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelh Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I guess I'm lucky to have got away with smuggling in a few bottles of Modelmaster paint all the way from the USA last year. They were in the checked luggage admittedly. The TSA never noticed. I actually don't think there's a problem with tinlets particularly in hold luggage. I suspect it happens a lot. I know I've done it a few times blissfully unaware of any rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Why don't you e mail the airline with pictures sizes and dimensions...or just cuff it. You're lucky it's not Brize Norton.....for those who know lmao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaSingh Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 Thanks all for the advice but I just found out that KLM, the airline I'm flying with, doesn't allow paints, varnishes, lacquers or glues, even water-based, so instead I'm getting another model, a sanding stick, and a few baseplates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shatters Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Is it really worth the hassle for 4 tins of paint ? Maximum they can be is £2 each so a total outlay of £8. How much can you possibly save ? Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaSingh Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 I could save around 2.60 altogether, but you're right, it isn't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusArenco Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 On 4/29/2017 at 10:37 PM, Troffa said: British Airways state paints (excl. water-based artist paints or artists' oil paints) Someone better tell British Airways that certain artists’ oil paints are prone to spontaneously combust. Burnt umber (a particularly apt name) was well known for it at the Winsor & Newton factory. Old Hand: “Mind out and keep an eye on the waste bin when doing that colour, it catches fire.” Young me: “Yeah, all right. Whatever.” (stupid ‘ol fart trying to scare me) Half hour later….. One of the women on the production line: “Can you smell burning?” Young me: “Expletive! Expletive! Expletive!” Old Hand fills a bottle of water at the sink and pours it over the smouldering waste bin, giving me an ‘I told you so’ look. At the end of the day all waste materials from the oil paint production lines was put into a water filled 1000ltr IBC container and kept outside under a heat detecting water sprinkler system. I am genuinely surprised that they never put warnings on the tubes of paint (especially burnt umber), or that we don’t hear more about artists’ studios going up in flames! Mart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpion Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 So is it burnt umber before it's spontaneously combusted or only after the event? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 8 hours ago, BetaSingh said: Thanks all for the advice but I just found out that KLM, the airline I'm flying with, doesn't allow paints, varnishes, lacquers or glues, even water-based, so instead I'm getting another model, a sanding stick, and a few baseplates. Why so glum chum.....is it that hard to get paints where you are?... I guess if you have to import them then you will be that much more careful with them....that said i've still got some compucolor....who remembers them? I have one that is the exact shade for an RAF Sabre ....some sort of blue . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaSingh Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 It's not hard to get paints, it would just have been easier and a lot more convenient for me to get the paints cheaper on holiday, but I'm getting a few other things I need anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaSingh Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 One other thing, I'm thinking of getting Revell Contacta Clear glue, and does anyone who have it know whether it is flammable or not, as I need to bring it on the plane, and 'highly flammable objects cannot be brought onto the plane'. All replies appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yes, flammable, its one way to unblock the tube is to burn it out, like a mini flame thrower for a moment it is so definitely quite flammable. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullbasket Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 On 01/05/2017 at 20:29, junglierating said: that said i've still got some compucolor....who remembers them? Remember them? I've still got about four dozen tins of the stuff, including the RAF PRU Pink and that lovely shade of green that one of the RAE two sea Hunters was finished in. Also some Gloy and Precision paints. But that was in a different lifetime when I built wingy things. John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Cor....i did that hunter I used some tamiya x28 park green....kinda looks ok.....wonder how close it is? Still got to find some roundels with white trim for it.....kinda stopped when I had the problem of the RAE/IAM crest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 On 4/30/2017 at 2:16 AM, LaurieS said: Actually I believe that you are OK with enamels providing they are of a size and type within the wording in the BA. Which states. Paints (excl. water-based artist paints or artists' oil paints), solvents, varnish, etc. I live in Jersey Channel Isles and all the Tamiya stuff is flown in. The size matters I am sure ie the size that an artist would use. They all come in plastic heat sealed bags. To be sure I would email them and explain what you want to do. Any affirmative reply take with you to show on your journey. Enamels are definitely NOT allowed on BA aircraft. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaSingh Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 Is it possible to buy Citadel Ardcoat varnish and take it onboard the plane, saying it's non toxic and water based, and it won't risk the safety of the plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Coombs Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Nearly a year ago I openly declared five pots of Xtracrylics when my hand luggage was being checked at Heathrow. The checker read the small print about them being water-based and non-flammable, and waved them through with no objections. I had them in a Ziplock bag to keep them together and prevent consequences of leakage. Under 100 ml, so above board. I was boarding a Lufthansa flight, not that that should have made any difference. It's absurd that you can board a plane with substantially larger quantities of readily-flammable perfumes or spirits, but I am not the first or last person to comment on this. Edited May 24, 2017 by Steve Coombs removal of spurious comma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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