beefy66 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Funny how the eyes play tricks when you think you have it straight and it turns out looking like the dogs back legs much better the second time around now you just have to make X2 of all the other parts to get them right beefy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Courageous said: Miles better Rob. I think their is some kind of optical illusion going on with those windows, all depends on the view point. Carry on good sir Stuart Thanks Stuart - know where you are coming from - the level of the rear windows relative to the front is at least now more accurate. 7 hours ago, longshanks said: Great job buddy, she is really taking shape now Kev Gracias Kev. 6 hours ago, JohnWS said: Rob, you're bringing me back some bad memories. That the same problem I had with my Fairmile D. I initially assumed those windows were rectangular. The angled bulkhead & roof surfaces, & window shape took a while to sort out. Looks like you're on the right track. John - you aren't wrong - it's not an easy construction. Kev had it right when he suggested using card (easier to cut) to template. The angles are tricky and in truth this is a simplification as the original front and angled sides had a further angle change about half way down to the deck. Madness to attempt IMHO It's not perfect but I'm going to stick with this . 21 minutes ago, beefy66 said: Funny how the eyes play tricks when you think you have it straight and it turns out looking like the dogs back legs much better the second time around now you just have to make X2 of all the other parts to get them right beefy Yes to the first bit Beefy .........and no to the second - if I have to make another set - I'll have to be dragged off screaming For someone used to immediate results scratch-building is temporal purgatory. I'm having cold sweats about the HDML that shares a similar shape and form Hopefully I can now crack on and get some pace - I struggle with long builds. Thanks all Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 I'm trying to do a weekly update! Thanks to Kev for his tip about sticking pieces of plastikard together with CA glue and then cutting/filing to shape so that both are identical.....I'm having a go at reproducing the CQR anchors that these vessels carried And I changed my mind and opted to use home -made bollards rather than the Shapeways ones I purchased and of course work has continued on the wheel house (Take 2)............. The roof sections and framing have taken up most of this PM "196" had a locker "wrapped" around the wheelhouse front which needed a little practice So that I finally got the angles right......... Thanks for looking Rob 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 She's looking better & better Rob. Really starting to look like a 'B'! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 2 hours ago, robgizlu said: "196" had a locker "wrapped" around the wheelhouse front which needed a little practice So does that mean you had to make more than one...again beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 11 hours ago, robgizlu said: tip about sticking pieces of plastikard together with CA glue See you can teach an old dog new tricks 11 hours ago, robgizlu said: a locker "wrapped" around the wheelhouse front The triangular ends are I think call sea boxes ( prevent the ingress of sea water into the accommodation ) The centre piece is a locker easily corrected - stick a lid on it See your initial pics. The superstructure is looking cracking as it comes together. Love what your doing to this Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Making great strides with the 'B', looking very nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 Thanks John and Beefy (ohh Yuss!) Kev - An Old Dog that has already learnt many tricks from you And thanks for the Sea box info - It's not entirely clear on Lamberts sketches. I'm on the case. Thanks Stuart, it is slowly coming together, which brings us to my next subject................... Look what arrived in the post today - Thanks Christian - MTB Hulls Answers on a postcard please..... Rob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 A/C class ML hull? Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Fairmile A? Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewy Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Superb scratch building rob, very impressive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 19 hours ago, stevehnz said: A/C class ML hull? Steve. 12 hours ago, Courageous said: Fairmile A? Stuart Well done Fellas The answer is Yes - the Fairmile A and C shared the same hull and a build coming soon(ish) to a Blog near you will feature .... Fairmile C - MGB Q328 which will likely be a whole lot easier than the "B". Rob 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmo G Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 This continues to impress, superb building skills Rob and i am REALLY looking forward to that Fairmile! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, robgizlu said: ... Fairmile C - MGB Q328 which will likely be a whole lot easier than the "B". Rob Cool! I think to only models of the C's I've seen have been in museums. It'll be fun to watch another unique build. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, robgizlu said: Fairmile C - MGB Q328 which will likely be a whole lot easier than the "B". Rob Brilliant, I've just read Battle of the Narrow Seas again & these featured quite prominently. I'll be looking out for it. No pressure mind. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Wow I am surprised ! I saw the hull quickly yesterday and wondered about A/C (Having been pointed in the direction by @stevehnz ). My next thought was who would make one of those, can't be. I now know who ...... Nice one buddy. I'm away from my reference material at the moment but I seem to recall a lot of ' Cs ' took part in St Nazaire, could this be one of them. I think one was assigned to Special Ops taking agents to and from France. Either way a great one for the records, I've never seen an A or C built Glad were keeping you at sea Rob. Kev PS Good spot Steve 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 'twere fresh in my mind Kev, otherwise I'd have been scratching head I reckon, thanks for giving my ego a wee buff up though. Steve 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris B Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 That's a good thread. I'll it is coming well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 Salmo, John,Steve, Kev and Kris - Thanks Steve - thanks for the tip - I've just bought a copy of "The Battle of the narrow seas". When I first started this blog I obsessed about the "taut wire measuring gear", and what it would look like. These were the only 3 photos I could find...... Hints about the broad shape and components but without an idea of the overall structure. In an idle moment at work today I searched again and YEssssss!!! Look what the net yielded.... (Note to self - "never give up - never surrender") So now it's just a job of scratching it..... Rob 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Well, I had to go back to page 1 of this thread to get a hint of what you were gibbering on about, 'taut wire measuring system'...still don't know what it does. Enlighten this poor mortal please . Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Hi Stuart These boats were designated to mark the channels for landing craft to use in their run-in to the D-Day beaches. These channels had been mine swept. The gantry carried the 970 radar and pre-prepared chart overlays were used to match expected radar returns from the land to ensure accurate positioning. Pre - GPS the "taut wire measuring system" was a means of telling how far the boat had travelled from a fixed point, with rather more accuracy than a normal towed log. To quote Mark Smith from Coastal craft History Volume 3, "To measure distance, taut-wire measuring gear was fitted. This consisted of two separate units; a reel of piano wire (either nine or twenty miles in length on small boats) and a series of tensioning rollers. As the wire was paid out, the rollers kept the wire taut and measured the amount of wire taken off the reel. The wire was attached to a point whose location was known. once a distance was measured, the wire was cut and lost to the sea ". HTH Rob 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Thanks Rob, learn something everyday. One would hope that the 'taut wire' wasn't severed by some ships propeller or something in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robgizlu Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 On 4/20/2018 at 10:07 AM, Courageous said: Thanks Rob, learn something everyday. One would hope that the 'taut wire' wasn't severed by some ships propeller or something in the process. My thoughts exactly Stuart, but I guess we've all got used to Sat technology and GPS I've learnt that a scratch build is nothing if not time intensive. You have to make everything I've been doing the deck furniture. Pics of wartime Bs show a lot of deck clutter so I've tried to go for high detail working from John Lambert's line drawings. The mushroom vents are raised so I used the "caps" from the Coastal craft offerings and attached them to 1.5mm rod. I've glued these raised sections to act as a placement jig so that the "one-piece" superstructure can be lifted off to ease with the painting stage (which is slowly approaching) I'vecided to add the toerails and handrail stanchion bases at this pre-paint stage, they aren't spaced regularly which is tricky I need to scratch the anchor bow roller, finish the anchors, add the lifting eyes and complete the toe rails; and then the hull and deck are probably ready for painting. Then I need to: - scratch the D/C davits - scratch the aft 20mm bandstand - scratch the taut wire measuring gear - scratch the stove-pipe - finish the radar gantry - detail the 6-pounder - Dremel out the deck vents and fit 2 months I reckon Rob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWS Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Looking good! It's amazing how much 'stuff' was on the decks of these small ships. Scratch building makes you realize just how much there is when focusing on making all the bits & pieces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Great progress Rob, you may have a lot still to build but look how much you've done. Just love the way this is going ...... superb attention to detail. As to the taut wire gear ......................... a piece of cake after the wheelhouse. Don't get bogged with the detail. Just start at a point and build from there. You can do it, we all know you can Kev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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