Ptmvarsityfan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Hi, have recently purchased the Mikromir 144th Argosy srs 100,looks very good in the but I would like to model G-BEOZ as on the box top as I have seen this plane many times at East Midlands Aeropark. My problem is that the decal sheet only provides serials and titling but not the red pinstripes along the fuselage. Also the red on the sheet is much brighter than on the aircraft as it is at present although the colours seem faded on the real aircraft. Can anyone suggest how to reproduce the striping or maybe willl have to wait until aftermarket decals are issued, if ever. Cheers, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Although it wouldn't be easy it should be just possible to mask and paint the stripes. If you don't want to do that decal stripes are probably the only way to go. Hannants have sheets of red stripes by Microscale and Xtradecal although the colour might be a bit too bright. Alternatively you could paint the lower fuselage red up to the position of the top stripe then apply white decal stripes. Either way good luck with getting decal stripes round the nose and tail! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMB Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 This is the only problem with these Mikr Mir kits as the decals are not only inaccurate, but also the colours. Hannants Xtradecal range includes a sheet of red stripes of several thicknesses, but it is 'bright red' and the Elan colour is maroon. If I were you, I would get this sheet and overpaint the red with maroon paint, then with a sharp knife and metal ruler, cut out the stripes carefully to ensure the edges are sharp. Alternatively as Skodadriver suggests, mask and paint the stripes, but that could be tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Thanks for that Skodadriver and AMB, very helpful and have ordered the Xtradecal stripes. Will see how it goes, does look very good in the box! Cheers, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I just noticed on another modelling site that Nick Webb (aka Classic Airlines) has produced some decals for the Mikromir kit - Sagittair, Air Anglia, Rolls Royce and Universal so far. I don't know if he's planning any more but if Elan doesn't work for you there are four other schemes to fall back on. I'll certainly be ordering the kit and the Air Anglia decals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I saw those decals too Dave, I quite fancy the Air Anglia and the Sagittair colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 There appears to be a problem with the decals in these kits. The sheet seems to have been designed for both iterations (BEA and Élan) and then arbitrarily divided, with some decals for one boxing in the other so that neither kit has a full set of decals for the colour schemes shown in the instructions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I keep hoping to see Transair Cargo one of these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Thanks very much Skodadriver, have ordered Sagittair decals, think that will be easier than trying to do Elan striping, hope he does Elan decals though. Cheers, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I'm currently working on this kit too. I also bought the Rolls Royce set mentioned above from the LGW event at K2 in Crawley recently as its far better than the kit especially when I compared the RR logo. As for the red stripes, one of the ranges from Hannants has the red a deeper colour that would probably be OK for the ELAn subject. I think its the Xtradecal one. The kit has a lot of flash!!! A lot of it is quite thick and needs careful removing. I added nose weight to the upper floor of the cockpit are behind cockpit bulkhead as there is no room below if you want the huge cargo doors open. Good luck with your build and decals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Aer Lingus Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I was chatting to Nick @ LGW2017 I hope to persuade him to do decals for the Aer Turas Argosy in both 1:144 & 1:72 perhaps if there is enough interest he may do other schemes too. The decals he had for this plane were very tempting especially the Air Anglia one! Eamonn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky coffeeboat Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Team Aer Lingus said: I was chatting to Nick @ LGW2017 I hope to persuade him to do decals for the Aer Turas Argosy in both 1:144 & 1:72 perhaps if there is enough interest he may do other schemes too. The decals he had for this plane were very tempting especially the Air Anglia one! Eamonn Well, I'd buy a set because the cheat lines have been putting me off building mine. The Aer Turas scheme being one I'd like to do along with various others. I also quite fancy the IPEC aircraft as I remember an article in Scale Models International from the late 80s/ early 90s in which the modeller ( can't recall the name and apologies if it's a member on here) made a great job of the Welsh Models vac form. Since then I've always been keen to build one, there's something attractive about a bright yellow aircraft. Jeff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britman Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Are we suggesting that if I make the effort to paint my Argosy ready for the AerTures decals as supplied I may up the creek without a decal? Edited April 27, 2017 by Britman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Séan Pádraig Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 The kit I bought at Southern Expo last month comes with Aer Turas decals already... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, Séan Pádraig said: The kit I bought at Southern Expo last month comes with Aer Turas decals already... Thats interesting. Not in the kit I've got. Only BEA, BBA , R-R, Universal, ELAN and Sagittair. All with incomplete schemes as all the striping are not included in the kit. Just logos and reggie lettering and a couple other items. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 ^ Ah, that explains a lot! Thanks for the info. There was a discussion over on Airlinercafe about Jennings doing a supplementary sheet for these 'missing' items for the BEA scheme. I was going to get a second kit anyway so I'll now get the Elan boxing version to get my missing bits for BEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Mc Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 On 25/04/2017 at 18:51, Jessica said: I keep hoping to see Transair Cargo one of these days... The boxing I bought has a set of Aer Turas decals. The Aer Turas Argosy is in basic Transair colours as it was leased from the Canadian airline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britman Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Right, brain re engaged and reading the post properly. ... I got the impression that the kit supplied decals were no good and that having taken the trouble to paint the aircraft I would be without the titles to finish it. The kit is going together quite well and my only problem so far has been the step through the middle of the flaps underside. I had to do a little thinning on the trailing edge of the lower wing and remove a little of the area on the top wing that it sits on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Aer Lingus Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Eric Mc said: The boxing I bought has a set of Aer Turas decals. The Aer Turas Argosy is in basic Transair colours as it was leased from the Canadian airline. The Brown mid fuselage was painted green while on lease to Aer Turas but rest of aircraft was left in Transair colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britman Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I Google d Transair image's and I can't make up my mind as to what the main colour is, a rich yellow or cream? Are the kit colour instructions reliable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 My memories from the early '70s tell me that it was a deep cream/pale yellow colour. This photo displays it best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britman Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Jessica said: My memories from the early '70s tell me that it was a deep cream/pale yellow colour. This photo displays it best. That is just what I needed, I can work from that. Thank you very much Jessica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Bit confusing but there are two boxings by Mikromir, the series 100 and the 200. Not sure of the differences in the plastic but I got the series 100 as wanted to do Elan colours but no striping included, or for the Sagittair or Rolls-Royce options. Cheers, Paul PS not sure if the 200 had any external differences but the wing structure was completely revised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 On 26/04/2017 at 7:58 PM, Paul J said: Thats interesting. Not in the kit I've got. Only BEA, BBA , R-R, Universal, ELAN and Sagittair. All with incomplete schemes as all the striping are not included in the kit. Just logos and reggie lettering and a couple other items. Picked up a BEA one at the Perth show today. The decals in mine are exactly as illustrated by Séan Pádraig. They put me in mind of what came with early Welsh Models vacforms - basic titles, registrations, flags and not a lot else. Masking cheatlines really isn't difficult unless you're determined to do something like Elan but it's a bit of a dying art because we've become so accustomed to decal makers handing us everything on a plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 For any striping I always make sure I have a good supply of striped decals in all colours available. That way I have (hopefully) what I need. On the Micrscale/Superscale sets a range of widths are supplied and as for the BEA scheme you should be able to find one wide enough for the main black stripe and just build up the black stepped up section/area. If anybody else wants any of the kit decals............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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