cherisy Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Ive happened accross a Mistercraft repop of the Plastyk Javelin.. Now, apart from consigning it to the bin, what would I need to do to turn it into a passable FAW7?. Does anyone have any decent MK7 photos or be able to point me in the right direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huvut76g7gbbui7 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Don't bin it ! It can be done by resorting to good old fashioned modelling.(and DuncanB will be along in a minute to tell you how) Here's a starting point: http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/javelin/index.php http://www.airplane-pictures.net/type.php?p=1089 Richard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phat trev Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I have the plastyk Javelin and indeed after some modelling skill it should look great . I am considering an FAW.1 or 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherisy Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Thanks for the vote of confidence guys. After doing a bit of digging I see that the wing leading edge is slightly different .back to doing things the old way back in the Frog/Matchbox days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 This kit is a modification of the late-sixties(?) FROG kit, so it's about 1/10" short in the nose. It also lacks the undercut on the lower rear fuselage between the tailpipes and the tailpipes themselves are [quite a large] bit of a figment of someone's imagination. That apart the overall shape isn't too bad but detail, or rather the lack of it, is very much of the kit's era, so you're going to be doing some scratch building. I'm beginning to wish that I had picked up the example that our local kit purveyor had in recently but I've already got too many projects on the go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWFK10 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 The fin and rudder (Part 13) are much too thin in cross-section, a problem it's inherited from the Frog kit - where it was pointed out in a conversion article in an old copy of PAM News by a chap who had served as groundcrew on a Javelin squadron. See the photo here taken from the top of the fuselage - I can't link direct to the picture but it's the first one in the section headed "Tail". Annoyingly, like Frog, Plastyk produced the whole vertical tail as a single part, so you can't just shim it: when I built a Novo Javelin recently, I made a new fin and rudder from plastic card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti_K Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Hello cherisy! Looking at the photos of the kit (I don't have the kit) it looks that is a FAW.9/9R. This means that You need to: - remove the "bullet fairings" from the wing leading edges - remove the protruding gun muzzles - fill/sand the leading edges straight between outer gun and pitot tube (FAW.8 was the first with "kinked" leading edge) - fill the four wing pylon holes (unless You are modelling a trial aircraft with missiles) - drill holes for guns - discard the long air intake scoops on top of the fuselage (Re-heat cooling intakes) - re-scribe the details on Port intake side (Ground connection) - make new aerials for "Violet Picture", "FI.5", "Rebecca"and communications - build a new rear fuselage with non Re-heated engines Hope these help for a start. Enjoy the build as Javelin is a very cool aircraft Best Regards, Antti 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherisy Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Antti_K said: Hello cherisy! Looking at the photos of the kit (I don't have the kit) it looks that is a FAW.9/9R. This means that You need to: - remove the "bullet fairings" from the wing leading edges - remove the protruding gun muzzles - fill/sand the leading edges straight between outer gun and pitot tube (FAW.8 was the first with "kinked" leading edge) - fill the four wing pylon holes (unless You are modelling a trial aircraft with missiles) - drill holes for guns - discard the long air intake scoops on top of the fuselage (Re-heat cooling intakes) - re-scribe the details on Port intake side (Ground connection) - make new aerials for "Violet Picture", "FI.5", "Rebecca"and communications - build a new rear fuselage with non Re-heated engines Hope these help for a start. Enjoy the build as Javelin is a very cool aircraft Best Regards, Antti Antii thats pukka gen! Just the job. I read somewhere that the 7 didnt get firestreaks till later.Just found a good pic of a 64 sqn Mk7 at Duxford and can see what you mean about the wing leading edge and missing bullet fairings. Many thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rholland Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Whirlybits produce two replacement rear fuselages, one for the FAW1/4/5 and one for the FAW7. See www.whirlybirdmodels.com, also available from Aviation Megastore. I have no affiliation to either company, just trying to help. Richard in NZ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 The Frog this kit is based on was released around 1974 or 5, which explains a certain chunkiness of the Frog (see also the Vixen ), though apparently not in the fin area. I admit liking the Frog 9 as well as their earlier, entirely different 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 The ZTS Plastyk is not the old Frog/Novo mould. The rear part of the canopy is not fixed to the fuselage on the Frog for a start and the rear end is also different. ZTS detail is engraved. It is however........greatly inspired by the Frog, as if it's been pantographed to make a new mould. Look out for sink marks by the air brakes and the wing join lines in the wheel bays! Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qn30jEkPz7 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Mental note: remember this thread when my Matchbox Javelin finally gets to the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antti_K Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Matchbox Javelin? ... More and more interested ... Best Regards, Antti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Antti_K said: Matchbox Javelin? ... More and more interested ... Best Regards, Antti Yes indeed....... https://www.toymart.com/Matchbox-9e-AMX-Javelin/11438 Trevor (runs away cackling) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Max Headroom said: Yes indeed....... https://www.toymart.com/Matchbox-9e-AMX-Javelin/11438 Trevor (runs away cackling) You, sir, are a knave! Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) I don't think it deserves the reputation as being 'unbuildable,' a little work and patience and a good result is possible, here's mine, it's an FAW9 which means I had to saw off the FAW7 rear fuselage! Edited April 29, 2017 by Kes 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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