Der Lingener Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Hi folks, those who read my (German language!) review about Revells latest attempt producing a Spitfire in 32nd scale here http://www.kitreviewsonline.de/spitfire-mk-ixc-von-revell-in-132/ might have wondered about the epic title of this online-build review "Is it really worth?". Well, frankly written, I am not quite sure ... Revells´s Mark Nine is inferior to Tamiya´s offering ... not doubt about that: The strange wing bulges for the wheels, the missing armour plating in the cockpit, some minor but nevertheless annoying flash and mould deficiencies here and there - a modern kit of the year 2017 should look better! But on the other hand: It costs only 27 Euros here in Germany compared to about 100 Euros they ask for the Tamiya-kit! So, again: Is it really worth? To give all readers an answer it might be wise to simply build the kit and everyone can proof the taste of the pudding by watching me eating ... To start with -no suprise here- the cockpit: The basic components have not been glued yet - just put into place ... As can (hopefully!) be seen - I had to fabricate a back armour for our pilot due to this vital part lacking in the kit! Both fuselage side walls (to be glued in after the cockpit "cage" has been completed) do feature some minimalistic detail: For an option with a closed canopy this might be (all eyes closed!) sufficient ... but if you want to display your canopy open, look for detail sets! Before gluing all cockpit components into the fuselage halves, you will have to detach these two parts from their respective runners - not an easy task due to the massive attachment points (to put it mildly!): But once done it was only a matter of some minutes with trial and error (not too positive in terms of parts-fitment!) to glue all the parts into place: And since I do like to finish as much subassemblies as possible I also finished the tail wheel (three parts!) and glued it into it´s receptive hole in the left fuselage halve: BEWARE: It only fits perfect if glued into the LEFT fuselage - the right fuselage doesn´t have an attachment point that fits the part! But once the halves are mated, everything fits sturdy and without problems! Simply follow the instructions! That´s how the assembly looks after some 2 hours of modelling: And now it´s time for some paint ... Michael Edited April 7, 2017 by Der Lingener 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacker Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Needs work and additions. Yesterday l order some parts from Barracuda Studios for my Tamiya Mk XI. If l knew l needed another seat l would have ordered it. But it is a builders kit, not the shake and back people like. Work on it and it will come out looking good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calum Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 As you said it looks like you get what you pay for. Me, I'd rather build the Tamiya kit every day regardless of the cost. But thats me. Other people will have other ideas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossofiron1971 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Very interesting, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Lingener Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 Hi Calum, frankly spoken: Me myself I wouldn´t be afraid of the costs and would also prefer the Tamiya kit. Time spent on inferior kits is (normally) time wasted - at least for me. But on the other hand: I did get the kit as a review sample and wrote my review and after that I simply wanted to know if it really is worth building this kit and what will come out of the box ... that´s why I started this online-build and I am eagerly awaiting the progress ... Michael 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike romeo Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Well, as a modeller, it's good to have a choice. Spend less money but have to spend some time and effort improving, or spend more money and get it all in the box. Sounds to me as if there's room for both on the market. Regards Martin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Lingener Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) Dear Martin, you are absolutely right: It depends on one´s modelling philosophy what each modeller wants to do: Either spend a lot of money for the (near) perfect Tamiya kit or be more than satisfied with the mediocre Spitfire from Revell for around 30 Euros. Suum cuique! I opted for the latter way and I want to show what is possible with a kit out-of-the-box. But to be honest: I had to make one addition - seatbelts! Since Revell didn´t even provide decals, I choose Eduards STEEL "seatbelts RAF late" to liven up the plastic: The whole construction (although not "top modelling" I must confess!) with the Tamiya jar "Cockpit Green (IJN)" in the background - for me the perfect choice when dealing with RAF interiors!): The seat inside the starbord fuselage half: A last look at the instrument panel with kit supplied dials ... ...before I close the cockpit section: Prior to mating both fuselage halves I had to glue in the access door: ... and smear some paint on the interior: Everything ready to be closed: To be continued by your humble thumb-fisted modeller... Michael Edited April 14, 2017 by Der Lingener 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I'd check the crow-bar colour for a wartime aircraft, they were not red but rather left in unpainted metal Crowbar colour aside, the cockpis sure isn't particularly detailed from the box, I've seen 1/48 Spitfire kits with better detail. Actually I feel that some 1/72 kits offer more detail... At the same time this kit is sure not meant to compete with the Tamiya one, as the price indicates. I can see many modellers being tempted by the cheap price and using this kit to do multiple builds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Lingener Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Once everything was in place it was time to close the fuselage halves and carry on with some minor corrections. Gluing the two really big parts together was absolutely trouble-free and I encountered no problems whatsoever! "Down under": The cockpit: That´s it so far ... I will update this online-build. Michael 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Lingener Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Giorgio N said: I'd check the crow-bar colour for a wartime aircraft, they were not red but rather left in unpainted metal Yes, you´re right! I was simply tempted to add some colour inside the closed cockpit ... that´s it! As I stated earlier: This is meant as a fun build to show what´s possible out-of-the-box so please forgive my ignorance ... 24 minutes ago, Giorgio N said: I can see many modellers being tempted by the cheap price and using this kit to do multiple builds. Dear Giorgio, which includes me too: I got the actually built Spit as a review sample but I will definitely buy another one to be detailed with Quickboost seat, Quickboost exhaust (you will see later, why this is absolutely necessary!), Master guns and Eduard photo-etch - to be finished as a Greek one from their 1949 civil war! And, of course, this time the crow-bar will be correctly coloured - promised! Michael Edited April 14, 2017 by Der Lingener 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 I've just given up and ordered one despite having a Tamiya Mk. IX and 2 PCM Mk. IX's in the stash mainly because I want to build several different Spitfires and could not justify spending a lot of money on multiple Tamiya purchases. Having just completed two Hobbyboss Mk. V's and finishing off a Mk.II I have used lots of Barracuda detail parts which will be just as useful on the Mk. IX. Cheers Dennis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Lingener Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) After glueing the fuselage it was time for some filler - first some sinkmarks needed their attention and secondly I produced another "filler spot" by "hacking" and filing my way through the upper nose´s construction (ham fisted I´d say! ): In the end everything looked at least passable and I closed the canopy (no way of displaying it open due to the poor details inside!) and masked it for the first layer of paint (Interior Green, Tamiya): The whole construction so far: Of course I managed to break off the tail wheel ... It will be reattached after the painting and decaling is done! The radiators were next on the agenda - interesting that Revell used the one from their Mk. II and added a new sprue with a second radiator. And, as can be seen, the "old" radiator features some flash: Radiators drying I turned my attention to the construction of the wings: An easy task - no problems whatsoever encountered! And I was "in the mood" for more so constructed the prop: Frankly I am not quite sure about the prop´s direction - it can only be glued in this way but it looks dubious to me: Anyone with more knowledge about "Spitfire" to the rescue? Props ready (although maybe wrong?) the undercarriage legs were next: Nothing too spectacular and more or less only basic I opted to add some break wiring and drill the eyelet on the legs: And to finish my work so far I did the horizontal stabilizers - Revell constructed them in a way to allow Mk. II and later versions with the same parts: Really clever I´d say! And that´s all for now ... I did all these during the last week and whenever I will do some more work on my Spitfire I´ll keep you updated. Enjoy the Easter/Pessach weekend Michael Edited April 14, 2017 by Der Lingener 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Coming along nicely,.....I`m onto my second one and I think that it is well worth the asking price. I have left my tail wheel off until the end for the very reason that you have highlighted,..... sorry that yours snapped! All the best and good luck with the build,,.....you may need plastic card shims for the wing roots when you fit them, Cheers Tony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Lingener Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Thanks Tony, I´ll keep an alerted eye on it! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Lingener Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 Oh by the way: Why the guys at Revell choose to do the u/c leg in two parts is beyond my understanding: This way you first have to glue these parts togetherwith the necessary cleaning up in an awkward place and second you do inherit a weak spot! I opted to (hopefully!!) strengthen this unnecessary join by using superglue over it and the mess will (also hopefully) be invisible once the undercarriage is in situ... Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaneng Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 We have a Mk IX on the BBMF. Your propeller looks correct to me for a Merlin engined Spit, for clockwise rotation as viewed from the cockpit. Best of luck with the build 😀 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Lingener Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) Thanx a lot isaneng! Your answer helps a lot because I am not really an expert in Spitfires and the prop simply "looked wrong" to me. So your positive confirmation that anything is right is much appreciated ....*sigh* Michael Edited April 14, 2017 by Der Lingener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndM Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Looks really nice so far, guess my tail wheel would suffer the same fate. A well made Spitfire Mk.IX in 1:32 for a good price is worth for some thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) Looks like Revell copied Airfix's 1/48th UC leg attachment, which was a very poor choice in 1/48th... prop, and other general details note also that the outer wheel part of the wheel well is the underside colour, not interior green. the inner oleo leg part of the well (ie inside the wing) should be painted aluminium, as should the inside of the flaps....which are only dropped on the ground for servicing, pilots got 'fined' a round of drinks in the bar for forgetting to raise them! UC legs/inside of UC doors were either aluminum paint, or later, the underside colour for more see http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235019815-supermarine-spitfire-xiv/&do=findComment&comment=2694588 and http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235019815-supermarine-spitfire-xiv/&do=findComment&comment=2694939 I appreciate it's a simple build Michael, but maybe of use, if not to you, to other members. Neat work and an interesting and useful build, highlighting the good and bad. cheers T Edited April 15, 2017 by Troy Smith tidy up, adds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, Troy Smith said: Looks like Revell copied Airfix's 1/48th UC leg attachment, which was a very poor choice in 1/48th... prop, and other general details note also that the outer wheel part of the wheel well is the underside colour, not interior green. the inner oleo leg part of the well (ie inside the wing) should be painted aluminium, as should the inside of the flaps....which are only dropped on the ground for servicing, pilots got 'fined' a round of drinks in the bar for forgetting to raise them! UC legs/inside of UC doors were either aluminum paint, or later, the underside colour for more see http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235019815-supermarine-spitfire-xiv/&do=findComment&comment=2694588 and http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235019815-supermarine-spitfire-xiv/&do=findComment&comment=2694939 I appreciate it's a simple build Michael, but maybe of use, if not to you, to other members. Neat work and an interesting and useful build, highlighting the good and bad. cheers T It is still a poor choice regarding those gear legs, i build the Mk2 of Revell and i set those legs with slow setting two component epoxy for ease of alignment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Lingener Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, Troy Smith said: note also that the outer wheel part of the wheel well is the underside colour, not interior green. the inner oleo leg part of the well (ie inside the wing) should be painted aluminium, as should the inside of the flaps....which are only dropped on the ground for servicing, pilots got 'fined' a round of drinks in the bar for forgetting to raise them! UC legs/inside of UC doors were either aluminum paint, or later, the underside colour Dear Troy, now,that´s what, in my more than humble opinion, are onlie-build-articles for: Learning from others! Thanks for the colours - I´ll definitely will paint my Spitfire according to your hints! As for the dropped/not dropped flaps: I have not really decided yet wether to drop them (they were only dropped on landing or for maintenance?) or not: They are structurally not the best representations (so don´t drop them!), but they are unfortunately not the best fit ever (so drop them!). Time will tell ... Meanwhile I have to prepare Easter so no time for modelling ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I keep telling myself that I don't need another 1/32 Spitfire, but at that price I don't think I'll be able to resist for very long. Even with the addition of some cockpit extras from Barracuda it's still going to be about half the cost of the opposition. I think the rivet representation on the fuselage is overdone but that can easily be overcome with some Mr Surfacer and wet'n dry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Thanks for a really honest and useful review build. It gives a really good sense of the kit and it's strengths and weaknesses. Regards, Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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