billybookcase Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I didn't realise how wobbly my hands are until I tried this for the first time. Pre-shading that is. Thanks in advance. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorby Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I don't like my pre-shading lines to be too straight. Looks a bit more natural if there a bit wonky (that's my excuse anyway). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Laidlaw Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Try adopting the sign writer's trick of using a stick as a portable rest for your brushing arm/hand - with a bit of practise it may help: https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-a-painters-mahl-stick-2577635 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybookcase Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 Thank you. I did think of a maul stick, which works fine on a flat square canvas, but would be a bit fiddly inside a spray booth with a 3d airplane. I'll experiment and let you know. Cheers. BB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Practice, practice,practice It's the only way I know, I'm still wobbly but it does get better the more you do. Also I think sometimes you can try too hard, relax it's only pre shading you can cover most of it up anyway that's what I tell myself and it seems to work and it helps with the control for the other stuff as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LotusArenco Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 9 hours ago, colin said: Practice, practice,practice Yep, just keep at it. Practice on a piece of paper, rather than your model. Try spraying lines, squares and circles. To be honest, I usually make a pig’s ear of it myself. Safe in the knowledge that further coats of paint will cover up the cock-ups. Mart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank152 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Why pre shade? Use a black primer instead, no need to worry about any lines then, just build your colour up slowly and you'll get the same effect. Tim. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlanceHR Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 billybookcase, do you hold the airbrush with one hand or both hands? Resting the model on a stand and holding the airbrush with both hands really makes a difference when doing the precision painting. Pity it took me so long to *see* it in all those Youtube videos. Vedran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybookcase Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 Thank you for the suggestions. I will try the 2 handed option. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Laidlaw Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Just as an idea, it would be fairly simple to knock up something like this, or indeed to buy one if you felt so inclined. Just a thought . http://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?products_id=4189 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieS Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Hold the non airbrush hand clasped on the airbrush wrist. Rest the non airbrush arm near the elbow on the stomach. If you have arm rest on your seat rest the airbrush elbow on the seat arm. If your seat swivels then swivel the seat to move the airbrush. Laurie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybookcase Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 Some useful tips, thank you. Tried the two handed grip, much better, but as the saying goes, practice makes perfect. I found I was getting better as I went along, problem being I probably won't be doing any preshading lines for a while, so Ill be back to square one next time. I'll probably knock together the gizmo John showed us. The problem with that is it and the Victor both won't fit inside my home made spray booth, so I'd have to airbrush outside the booth. Cheers BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synopsis Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 I am sure I read somewhere that most people will find it naturally easier to spray straight lines in one plane over the other so you might want to see if you find it easier to spray straight lines horizontally or vertically and rotate the model accordingly during the preshade process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayprit Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 On 03/04/2017 at 7:01 PM, billybookcase said: I didn't realise how wobbly my hands are until I tried this for the first time. Pre-shading that is. Thanks in advance. BB Help is never far away, just a matter of looking.........................lots of videos here, heres one to start you off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3vZZEwkjXQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybookcase Posted June 26, 2017 Author Share Posted June 26, 2017 Thank you Ray. BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 My trick would have to be to get someone else to do it. I never bothered learning to pre-shade too tidily, and I've given that technique up in the end. I just blat a base coat onto the model, then adjust the colour a bit (lighter or darker - whatever seems right), and scribble around and inside the panels hither & thither (I might be simplifying a little). It avoids the accusations of painting patchwork quilts, and the embarassment of getting found out for having shaky hands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 ...sorry to admit this - but I have been cheating... http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/officedepot/754871_p?$OD-Dynamic$&wid=450&hei=450 ...but hey - it works for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Doesn't that bleed through the paint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieS Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) On 14/04/2017 at 17:24, John Laidlaw said: Just as an idea, it would be fairly simple to knock up something like this, or indeed to buy one if you felt so inclined. Just a thought . http://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/product_info.php?products_id=4189 Like this John. I am in a weak moment thinking of getting one. Post may be the problem USA to UK. Finding out. Just have to cut down on those thinners. New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc ( just a bit spread over a year) Laurie Edited June 26, 2017 by LaurieS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Laidlaw Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 33 minutes ago, Mike said: Doesn't that bleed through the paint? It can do... and it can take months for it to happen. 13 minutes ago, LaurieS said: Like this John. I am in a weak moment thinking of getting one. Post may be the problem USA to UK. Finding out. Fingers crossed, Laurie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieS Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, John Laidlaw said: It can do... and it can take months for it to happen. I just love that optimism John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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