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Dear Sirs:  does anyone know if the Potez 633s delivered to Greece in 1940 were delivered in a scheme of overall green / silver undersidea?  Was it used in regular service and for how long?  At some point the Potez 633's appear to have been painted dark green and earth camouflage.   Again many many thanks!   See below link and scroll down to the Potez 633 for photo. 

http://raf-112-squadron.org/ground_crew_photos.html

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Hi

 

Those Potez 63 on the pictures are French and probably of the 630 type. On N°38 we can see the helmet insignia of SPA 124 Jane of Arc. The one in the foreground has undoubtly French roundels underside.

 

Patrick

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Hi, just saw this. As said earlier, the aircraft in the photo you posted is French. As regards to the Greek Potez 633, they must had been delivered in the typical french Khaki green, Dark gray, and Brown, over Light gray scheme. The picture below is of an aircraft most probably in this camo:

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Certain airplanes may have kept this camo till the very end:

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But in general, after October 1940, the Potez 633 camouflage gradually changed to Dark Green, Light Earth uppersides and maybe Sky blue undersides. There is a couple of new photos unearthed recently together with some older ones depicting this scheme:

IMG_0783.jpg

 

 

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As you can see, propellers were aluminium or black, whereas serial numbers were initially black, then gradually in certain planes changed to white.

 

Hope this helps

 

Dimitrios

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On 4.04.2017 at 0:24 PM, Dim_Thessalonica said:

As you can see, propellers were aluminium or black, whereas serial numbers were initially black, then gradually in certain planes changed to white.

Are you sure, that it is not a yellow taken once on panchromatic ("white") film, another time on ortochromatic ("black")?

Cheers

J-W

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The second from last photo appears to show yellow tips to the propellors similar to RAF practice, so I'm guessing that isn't taken on orthochromatic film...unless, of course, the prop tips were some colour other than yellow. :)

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15 hours ago, JWM said:

Are you sure, that it is not a yellow taken once on panchromatic ("white") film, another time on ortochromatic ("black")?

Cheers

J-W

I don't think so. Not just the Potez 633, but Greek PZL P24, Hs 126, Blenheim MkIV, and Fairey Battles also had black serial numbers (the latter also had white serial numbers under wings), as shown in all relevant pictures just before the break-up of hostilities. At some point during the 6 months war, there has been an effort for change from black to white, for better recognition. Usually there is a marked difference in the font used for white serials, as is apparent in the above pictures. Moreover, apart from what mhaselden mentioned above, as you can see in the second picture I posted, among the wrecks there is a Luftwaffe Ju-87 Stuka, bearing the yellow front and rudder recognition colors of the Balkan campaign, that appear distinctively light in the picture, so surely no orthochromatic here. Interestingly, there were also cases of Greek Avro Tutors that had black letter and white number, so use of orthochromatic in this case should be excluded.

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6 hours ago, Dim_Thessalonica said:

Interestingly, there were also cases of Greek Avro Tutors that had black letter and white number, so use of orthochromatic in this case should be excluded.

Thank you for answer - this was kind of a doubt I had from years having no person to ask :)

Cheers

J-W

 

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