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      PhotoBucket are no longer permitting 3rd party hosting   01/07/17

      As most of you are now painfully aware, Photobucket (PB) are stopping/have stopped allowing their members to link their accumulated years of photos into forums and the like, which they call 3rd party linking.  You can give them a non-refundable $399 a year to allow links, but I doubt that many will be rushing to take them up on that offer.  If you've previously paid them for the Pro account, it looks like you've got until your renewal to find another place to host your files, but you too will be subject to this ban unless you fork over a lot of cash.   PB seem to be making a concerted move to another type of customer, having been the butt of much displeasure over the years of a constantly worsening user interface, sloth and advertising pop-ups, with the result that they clearly don't give a hoot about the free members anymore.  If you don't have web space included in your internet package, you need to start looking for another photo host, but choose carefully, as some may follow suit and ditch their "free" members at some point.  The lesson there is keep local backups on your hard drive of everything you upload, so you can walk away if the same thing happens.   There's a thread on the subject here, so please use that to curse them, look for solutions or generall grouse about their mental capacity.   Not a nice situation for the forum users that hosted all their photos there, and there will now be a host of useless threads that relied heavily on photos from PB, but as there's not much we can do other than petition for a more equitable solution, I suggest we make the best of what we have and move on.  One thing is for certain.  It won't win them any friends, but they may not care at this point.    Mike.
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Time to ditch the wingy things and armour up! First AFV WIP - Academy M3 Grant 1:35

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46 minutes ago, Hewy said:

Just had a look through this thread Clive,your doing a fantastic job, really nice detailing and weathering,

Glynn

Thanks Glynn, very kind of you.

 

I had a rush of blood to the head this evening after tea, and joined the two lengths of track together:

 

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It's not long enough to go all the way round yet, but it's not far off :)

 

 

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This evening, I decided it would be a good idea to try and determine how many more links I'd need to fit in order to complete the circuit, as it were.

 

The good news is, I managed to work out that I still need 17 links added on. This implies that there was some not-so-good news to go with it...

 

Now, one does not have to be an art aficionado to recognise and even appreciate certain paintings; Da Vinci's Mona Lisa, Van Gogh's evocative self portrait,  Vermeer's Girl with a Pearl Ear-ring all have the capacity to leave one wondering what was the inspiration for such memorable facial expressions. This evening, I learned exactly what was in the very forefront of Edvard Munch's mind when he painted 'The Scream'... he was obviously imagining what it would be like to spend countless hours hand-making some double-I pattern track, having previously glued together the top and bottom halves of a Grant hull, complete with PE fenders at least partially obscuring the sprocket wheels... only to find that the track was TOO %^&$$%£-ing WIDE for said sprocket wheel to engage with!!!!! By about 1mm if you pleasey!

 

:angry:

 

Exhibit 'A' m'lud - facilitated by rather brutally ripping the PE fender off the left side, and removing the (thankfully dry-fitted) sprocket wheel:

 

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The main culprits are the links, which between them contribute about 0.8mm of excess width, the additional 0.2mm width attributable to the track section itself.

 

Here's my 'Panda' track with the supplied rubber track lying on top of it - the additional width becomes plainly evident:

 

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Some good old Anglo Saxon invective was required to adequately convey my feelings of joy and goodwill in this matter...

 

It is fortunate that I used Tamiya Extra-Thin - and sparingly at that - to put the two halves of the sprocket wheel together. Running carefully round the join with a scalpel soon separated them; introducing a 1mm gap seemed to allow the track links to fully engage with the sprocket teeth:

 

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I now have the problem of trying to excise the right hand sprocket without trashing the sponson and having the whole thing reduced to its original constituent parts...

 

I am told that 'these things are sent to try us'... funny how there's never a return address...

 

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Long time lurker on this forum. However, I share your pain, having had the same issue with an Academy Achilles with Panda tracks. 

 

The issue is the Academy sprockets, which are too narrow, as are the roadwheels, though this is less noticeable. Panda tracks fit everything else, no problem.

 

ive done three or four sets of these now. A jig is a luxury to be honest. You can assemble them simply link by link. The pins are amazingly resilient; they rarely bend and I've only snapped a couple of them. There are plenty of spares, so it's not the end of the world. I wouldn't use anything else. The Bronco ones are stupidly complex, and the Friuls are just wrong!

 

Nice job so,far. My grant has just risen to close to the top of the pile, complete with lots of etch, Panda tracks, and some natty resin, only to,be usurped by the new Takom kits. Ho hum...

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8 hours ago, BruceG said:

Long time lurker on this forum. However, I share your pain, having had the same issue with an Academy Achilles with Panda tracks. 

 

The issue is the Academy sprockets, which are too narrow, as are the roadwheels, though this is less noticeable. Panda tracks fit everything else, no problem.

 

ive done three or four sets of these now. A jig is a luxury to be honest. You can assemble them simply link by link. The pins are amazingly resilient; they rarely bend and I've only snapped a couple of them. There are plenty of spares, so it's not the end of the world. I wouldn't use anything else. The Bronco ones are stupidly complex, and the Friuls are just wrong!

 

Nice job so,far. My grant has just risen to close to the top of the pile, complete with lots of etch, Panda tracks, and some natty resin, only to,be usurped by the new Takom kits. Ho hum...

 

Thanks for your comment BruceG, in fact you have answered a question I was going to ask, which is - whose was the right track dimension, Panda or Academy? I should have guessed, really!

 

I should also say, a belated welcome to BM! :yes:

 

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Morning Clive,

My vote would definitely be for the Academy sprockets to be too narrow. When I built the Grant years ago, I used the WE210 tracks from the Dragon Sherman lll and I had trouble getting them to fit the sprocket. It would be interesting to do a comparison between the Academy sprocket and the one from the new Takom kit.

It's all looking good though despite the sprocket woes.

 

John.

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13 minutes ago, Bullbasket said:

Morning Clive,

My vote would definitely be for the Academy sprockets to be too narrow. When I built the Grant years ago, I used the WE210 tracks from the Dragon Sherman lll and I had trouble getting them to fit the sprocket. It would be interesting to do a comparison between the Academy sprocket and the one from the new Takom kit.

It's all looking good though despite the sprocket woes.

 

John.

Thanks John.

 

I've just gone back to page 1 of this thread (where I talked about the trials and tribulations of getting the sprocket teeth to line up properly!)  and amended the post to add a 'warning from the future' for anyone contemplating using Panda tracks with the Academy sprocket!

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No problem. I ended up using a spare Tasca sprocket, and mounting, as their kits seem to supply spares of all the different types. Very useful I must say!

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Thankfully, the saga of the tracks has reached as satisfactory juncture... I was able to part - and widen - the two sides of the other sprocket wheel without having to remove the assembly from the shaft, and thereby dismantle/destroy any more PE:

 

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With that, the track fitted as it should:

 

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So, about those additional 17 links, then...

 

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Looks pretty good! Just 2 more links to add, and they are on there! Of course there is the small matter of painting and weathering first, but we appear to be back on track - as it were :D

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That's given the sand shields a nice battered look. Unrelated question for you Clive. What hosting site are you using? After all of my trumpet blowing for Village Photos, I'm unable to post anything from them. Others are in the same boat too.

 

John.

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2 minutes ago, Bullbasket said:

That's given the sand shields a nice battered look. Unrelated question for you Clive. What hosting site are you using? After all of my trumpet blowing for Village Photos, I'm unable to post anything from them. Others are in the same boat too.

 

John.

Thanks John, hopefully when I get to the weathering stage I will be able to make that look like dented and bent (and a bit rusty) steel, rather than dented and bent brass!

 

I now host my pics on Flickr. Pretty reliable so far - famous last words and all that!

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I can imagine the horror when you discovered the drive wheel wouldn't fit properly. You made a nice save though :yes:

Looking very good.

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In spite of everything, you have solved it very intelligently, being very well.
We have to be very careful with the spare tracks, as I realize, when adjusting them in the rear wheel, the teeth, do not usually fit in their mark, or is simply a little wider.
I think a faster solution (and a little more expensive ...) is to buy also the rear wheel add-on ...
 

Cheers Clive :popcorn:

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