"Oooh Matron" It's a P-38 Lightning with a saucy paint job in 1/48

[The Spadgent]

Just a quickie. I'm playing around with light chipping and some staining before I mat coat the anti glare and other parts. I'm using water colour pencils, I can wash it all off if I don't like it but I wondered what you guys thought?

 

 

 

Oh I got the UC out and the nose UC on.

she stands on her little legs and everything. 

 

Thanks for popping by.

 

johnny pencil.

 

Edited September 10, 2017 by The Spadgent

[rob Lyttle]

This is the silver wc pencil, right? That's pretty effective, and very controllable too.

The fact that it can be removed without wrecking everything is an advantage - you can experiment without risking the whole shebang.

And no nasty solvents! 

You could on to something here.

Bit of colouring in - and great results. Nice one, johnny!

[The Spadgent]

6 hours ago, rob Lyttle said:

This is the silver wc pencil, right? That's pretty effective, and very controllable too.

The fact that it can be removed without wrecking everything is an advantage - you can experiment without risking the whole shebang.

And no nasty solvents! 

You could on to something here.

Bit of colouring in - and great results. Nice one, johnny!

Yes I have used the silver one for chips, and a black and brown and red for little scratches and rust marks. Some light staining around the vents. I'm still not convinced. Might rub it out and start again. But thanks. 

[fewr9fkr9595]

Nice trick with the pencils 👍🏿

What and where are they from? 

[CedB]

I like it Johnny, subtle  

[Biggles87]

That's really beginning to link like worn and weathered aluminium and the wheels look great, I'm a big fan of tyres with chunky treads.

 

John

[TheBaron]

Yus, what Ced said. Metal-subtle does it.

 

[Fritag]

I'm with Ced and Tony - oh - and the last few pages have been a proper painting masterclass. 

[Vadim]

Hey Johnny - that looks really nice! 

Your subtle chipping and stains on anti glare and along the panel lines are beautiful.

The only thing I would probably improve is chipping on the tails... May be it is just the photo lights - but it seems the colour and the pattern make those look a little bit artificial. However you may have a very good reference photo for that but just because you asked - I had a quick look and found some interesting pictures of weathered P-38. Please do not take my comments too seriously as we all here to enjoy what we and others do

 

I couldn't find many pictures with chipping, but those I found show that it accumulates around propellers and at the front of engine nacelles. It also appears on the front of the nose and some subtle along the hatches:

 

 - Chipping on engine nacelles

 

 - Chipping at the blade root

 

 - chipping on the front of the nose.

Note the art is quite worn! Could be interesting to replicate on the model.

 

Of course extensive stains and worn you may find on top of the wing next to the cockpit:

 

 

 

And here are some stains and soot behind the superchargers:

 

 

 

Actually none of the pictures show any chipping on the tails, however, interestingly, especially the last two pictures show stains (smoke/soot traces) on both tails. 

Also, have a look at the last picture - lower part of each tail show some discoloration again probably due to high temperature exhausts

 

Hope you don't find my comments annoying. 

[giemme]

It all looks very effective John     If I may add my  , I'd have reverted the order of washing and chipping (chipoing first, I mean), I find it helps sort of "blending" the chipping in

 

Ciao

[Leonl]

3 hours ago, Vadim said:

May be it is just the photo lights - but it seems the colour and the pattern make those look a little bit artificial.

+1. The chipping around the cowlings and anti glare panels is excellent, I'm just not convinced on the fins.... 

[The Spadgent]

5 hours ago, Tony Oliver said:

Nice trick with the pencils 👍🏿

What and where are they from? 

I bought the silver ones from Amazon. The other ones were from Smiths. Just regular water colour pencils. I lick em and draw on the model, you can use a brush or a cotton bud to smudge or wipe off.  Really nice to be able to rub out mistakes. 

[The Spadgent]

3 hours ago, giemme said:

It all looks very effective John     If I may add my  , I'd have reverted the order of washing and chipping (chipoing first, I mean), I find it helps sort of "blending" the chipping in

 

Ciao

Thanks.

You might be right, it's easy to blend in these pencils though. I'll see how it goes.

 

Johnny

[The Spadgent]

5 hours ago, Vadim said:

Hey Johnny - that looks really nice! 

Your subtle chipping and stains on anti glare and along the panel lines are beautiful.

The only thing I would probably improve is chipping on the tails... May be it is just the photo lights - but it seems the colour and the pattern make those look a little bit artificial. However you may have a very good reference photo for that but just because you asked - I had a quick look and found some interesting pictures of weathered P-38. Please do not take my comments too seriously as we all here to enjoy what we and others do

 

I couldn't find many pictures with chipping, but those I found show that it accumulates around propellers and at the front of engine nacelles. It also appears on the front of the nose and some subtle along the hatches:

 

 - Chipping on engine nacelles

 

 - Chipping at the blade root

 

 - chipping on the front of the nose.

Note the art is quite worn! Could be interesting to replicate on the model.

 

Of course extensive stains and worn you may find on top of the wing next to the cockpit:

 

 

 

And here are some stains and soot behind the superchargers:

 

 

 

Actually none of the pictures show any chipping on the tails, however, interestingly, especially the last two pictures show stains (smoke/soot traces) on both tails. 

Also, have a look at the last picture - lower part of each tail show some discoloration again probably due to high temperature exhausts

 

Hope you don't find my comments annoying. 

Wow V thanks for all that ref!! I'm terrible and never look for ref like that mid way through a build. I don't know why.

 

I think you're right, I'll wipe off the chipping on the tail tonight. I haven't got to the turbo staining yet so I might add that to the tail. Your comments are on no way annoying all help is good help, especially when I can rub out my mistakes.  Thank you so much for digging out all those pics. I'll be sure to put em to good use.

 

johnny

[The Spadgent]

Thank guys for all your input into this. It's all very greatly appreciated.

I managed to take it back to basics. I have a plan, because the tip of the pencil is a bit thick and gives blobby marks as seen on the tail, I shaved off some of the lead with a blade and mixed with water and applied with a thin brush. Any way sorry if I'm treading old ground but here is where she is of now.

 

i think it looks a lot better and here is the tail sans scratches. I added slight ware on the star too.

 

I'm a bit pooped after work so I'm headed for wine.

thanks for all your p38 love.

 

happy Modelling guys.

 

Johnny try before you buy.

 

Edited September 10, 2017 by The Spadgent

[TheBaron]

Keep it up my friend - you're nearly there. 

Tony

[giemme]

I like it a lot, Johnny!

 

Ciao

 

[Spookytooth]

Enjoy the vino John, you have earned it mate.

She is looking great, and using water based materials, so easy to clean off if it looks wrong.

 

Simon.

[Howlindawg]

I've been abroad for work for the last month and have just brought myself up to date.

Looks great John - I love that livery with the subtle weathering effects.

 

[The Spadgent]

Thanks for all your help guys. It seems like  order of work on the P38 is little and often as not to get too much grief from my better half.  Tonight's task was supprisingly another new technique. After the pencil shaving escapade I decided to see if I could do the same with Tamiya pigments. You know use em like water colours. 

I did the turbocharger stains on the booms. 

 

 

Once again subtlety is on the menu, if I still like it tomorrow I'll add a little to the tail fins too. I quite like the sandy tone and the heated metal look, I used "rust" "sand" and "the black one" coal I think.

oh I got the window sanded and fitted in, there it is look. I've masked the top one too. I also built a little rolled down window from plasticard. I'll take some snaps tomorrow.

 

Thanks for popping in.

 

Johnny Short and sweet.

Edited September 10, 2017 by The Spadgent

[Spookytooth]

Nice and subtle John mate.

She is nearing the end and screaming towards the RFI pages.

 

Simon.

[giemme]

Subtle but effective, great job!

 

Ciao

[TheBaron]

All these little touches are adding up to something very special Johnny.

T.

[corsaircorp]

Hello Spad,

Very nice painting and chipping ! Really enjoyed the thread.

I was off for some days, recovering from my battle wounds

Lots of brand new scars ! Jaw is easing a bit !

Will resume work in my P-38s

Great Thanks to Vadim, nice photos !

Very helpfull !

You did great

Nice house too and good poultry, I missed it but we have far too more foxes all around !

See you later,

Take care of your back, I know far too much how it can be painfull !

Sincerely.

Cordaircorp

[corsaircorp]

On ‎16‎/‎05‎/‎2017 at 10:46, Vadim said:

Hey Johnny - that looks really nice! 

Your subtle chipping and stains on anti glare and along the panel lines are beautiful.

The only thing I would probably improve is chipping on the tails... May be it is just the photo lights - but it seems the colour and the pattern make those look a little bit artificial. However you may have a very good reference photo for that but just because you asked - I had a quick look and found some interesting pictures of weathered P-38. Please do not take my comments too seriously as we all here to enjoy what we and others do

 

I couldn't find many pictures with chipping, but those I found show that it accumulates around propellers and at the front of engine nacelles. It also appears on the front of the nose and some subtle along the hatches:

 

 - Chipping on engine nacelles

 

 - Chipping at the blade root

 

 - chipping on the front of the nose.

Note the art is quite worn! Could be interesting to replicate on the model.

 

Of course extensive stains and worn you may find on top of the wing next to the cockpit:

 

 

 

 

And here are some stains and soot behind the superchargers:

 

 

 

 

 

Actually none of the pictures show any chipping on the tails, however, interestingly, especially the last two pictures show stains (smoke/soot traces) on both tails. 

Also, have a look at the last picture - lower part of each tail show some discoloration again probably due to high temperature exhausts

 

Hope you don't find my comments annoying. 

Thank you Vadim,

I really enjoy the photo, especially this one showing a P-38M

Did'nt know that they did'nt paint the area around the superchargers.

Thank for the tip,

my night Lightning will be more realistic !

Sincerely.

Corsaircorp