mhaselden Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Hi Folks, Managed to score the Classic Airframes 1/48 DH Hornet F3 this past week and am interested in doing an Op FIREDOG bird. I have the Warpaint Series publication but it's a bit lacking on details like the undercarriage bays. Would I be better served with either of these options from a references perspective? Also, are there any aftermarket decals for a FIREDOG aircraft in the DG/EDSG/Azure camo scheme? The kit's decals are nice but the 80 Sqn machine only served in Hong Kong and I'm looking for a more warlike depiction with bombs and rockets to boot. Many thanks, Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Hi Mark David Collins build of the CA kit, lots of detail and corrections,plus very relevant photos and manual drawings. . Jon Kunac Tabinor did a great build,I think I linked it in David's build. Davis is 'mr Hornet' and has been building a replica... Xtradecal did a Hornet sheet " X042-48 DH Hornet/Sea Hornet (8) Mk.1 PX216 WA-TN Wg Cdr W.A. ‘Tiny’ Neale 1948; Mk.3 PX293 QV-A 19 Sqn 1950; WF975 /N 45 Sqn Malaya 1955; PX314 EB-C 41 Sqn 1950; PX302/G 33 Sqn Malaya 1954; PX392 SH-X 64 Sqn with or without Exercise Dagger markings 1950; F Mk.20 TT213 421/BO Airwork FRU 1952; TT209 806 Sqn Aerobatic Team Nth America 1948. " There a couple of Malaya options. Due to laziness I'm not about to actaully dig out the decals, but with the serails I'm sure you can find out if they are what you need. It's not listed at Hannants, but AJ Aviation list it http://ajaviation.co.uk/extra-decals/ HTH T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Swindell Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 As well as the David Collins thread Troy recommends above, I'd add:- John Aero attempting to knock the Trumpeter kit into submission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Hi Mark, If you can afford both, get both, If not then I would suggest acquiring Airframe Album No. 8 as it contains many technical illustrations. But, I would very definitely purchase both! Christian, exiled to africa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Troy, Dave, Christian, Thank you so much for these comprehensive replies. Hugely helpful. Always loved the look of the Hornet (well, who wouldn't?) but it isn't a type that gets much attention, sadly. The 2 build references are hugely helpful. I agree with you, Troy, that Dave Collins certainly is "Mr. Hornet". Certainly knows his stuff...and wish I could see the work he's doing on the 1:1 example. The Hornet is certainly a type that is ripe for resurrection (IMHO). Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aidy Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I have both books and if it's details you're looking for, the Valiant Wings book is the one you should get. It's loaded with pictures and drawings of almost every part of the airframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 Thanks Aidy...appreciate the insight which certainly helps inform my buying choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 The Tony Buttler book for Dalrymple & Verdun "DH Hornet & Sea Hornet" is also a must. There's an old Profile publication on the type and the Air Britain "Hornet File" by David Collins is well worth having, although may be a tad hard to get hold of. I got the Xtradecal sheet for the CA Hornet and found both to be somewhat disappointing. The kit had panel lines where there should be none and none where there should be, in addition to various other little glitches. The Hannants sheet had two of the former Frog kit options just scaled up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ththtttu7 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 6:51 PM, mhaselden said: Hi Folks, Managed to score the Classic Airframes 1/48 DH Hornet F3 this past week and am interested in doing an Op FIREDOG bird. I have the Warpaint Series publication but it's a bit lacking on details like the undercarriage bays. Would I be better served with either of these options from a references perspective? Also, are there any aftermarket decals for a FIREDOG aircraft in the DG/EDSG/Azure camo scheme? The kit's decals are nice but the 80 Sqn machine only served in Hong Kong and I'm looking for a more warlike depiction with bombs and rockets to boot. Many thanks, Mark Hi Mark, I'm more than happy to assist if you have any questions. You have selected two of the best (three) books. For 100% accuracy, I would suggest: Dalrymple and Verdun book for the colour profile artwork, with a slight RAF bias. Adhoc Publications "Sea Hornet, From the cockpit" for the colour profile artwork specialising in FAA. Valiant Wings book for the photos and scans of original manual images. Between these three books, they give the most complete picture. We went to great efforts to try and correct previous innacuracies that continue to be re-published without checking. Edited April 11, 2017 by David A Collins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 Brilliant! Thank you, David. Appreciate all your work to secure and then share accurate info on this beautiful aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisov Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Was wondering if there was any news on Johns proposed Hornet correction set please? Do hope not missed anything already posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedders Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Can I be cheeky and ask what the options are in 1/72? Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) Special Hobby, Magna, Frog/Novo and Skybirds 86. For my money, the Skybirds ones are the best of the bunch but try finding one now. Magna were all based on a warmed over Frog kit as the master. The Special Hobby ones I found them very disapointing and sold them all off at a loss just to be shot of them. They're scaled down from the Classic Airframes kits and contain the same errors - canopy incorrect shape, panel lines where there should be none and none where there should be. The Sea Hornets in particular lacked the quite prominent fold actuator blisters. Decals and resin were nice, but still, I just wanted rid. Frog? Old, crude and lacking in detail. Wing profile suspect and the nose is out but with a lot of work, it can look very presentable. It's an enjoyable enough kit to just build, but try getting a Frog original as you'll get decent decals that are still useable. If you're prepared to accept die casts, the Oxford ones are actually rather good. I think David Collins had some input into them. Edited April 14, 2017 by The Wooksta! Can't slag the SH Hornet enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ththtttu7 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 0:06 PM, The Wooksta! said: Special Hobby, Magna, Frog/Novo and Skybirds 86. For my money, the Skybirds ones are the best of the bunch but try finding one now. Magna were all based on a warmed over Frog kit as the master. The Special Hobby ones I found them very disapointing and sold them all off at a loss just to be shot of them. They're scaled down from the Classic Airframes kits and contain the same errors - canopy incorrect shape, panel lines where there should be none and none where there should be. The Sea Hornets in particular lacked the quite prominent fold actuator blisters. Decals and resin were nice, but still, I just wanted rid. Frog? Old, crude and lacking in detail. Wing profile suspect and the nose is out but with a lot of work, it can look very presentable. It's an enjoyable enough kit to just build, but try getting a Frog original as you'll get decent decals that are still useable. If you're prepared to accept die casts, the Oxford ones are actually rather good. I think David Collins had some input into them. re. The Oxford die cast models, yes i specified all of the colour schemes of those released, and a few more still to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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