bentwaters81tfw Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Supposed to be the answer to the F-35. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpPQ0_f_UvU Looks about a stealthy as a crate of oranges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Interesting video, thanks for sharing. The two aircrafts shown (2016 and 2017) are supposed to be the last two prototypes.2017 in particular should show the final configuration changes before the start of production. The first pre-production aircrafts are now said to have entered limited service, hopefully in the next few months some more information will be made available on this aircraft. In terms of stealthiness the consensus among the experts is that it should be stealth from front only, like the F-35. Sizewise though this is a large aircraft, larger than an F-22 Trumpeter made a kit of the first prototype a few years ago and then issued a new kit of prototype 2013. Hopefully they'll follow up with a production model as soon as enough is known of these (not that knowing everything is important to Trumpeter to issue a kit of course...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 9 hours ago, bentwaters81tfw said: Supposed to be the answer to the F-35. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpPQ0_f_UvU Looks about a stealthy as a crate of oranges. That's the point ... Perhaps they want to conceal crates of oranges? Who would suspect what looks like a new military aircraft of actually being a crate of oranges? Just a mad thought at almost 03:30am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Surely the crate of oranges will fit in the internal weapons bay? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 It didn't seem to take long to get this thing in to service, or at least not when compared to the F-35. I wonder what that says about its capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 48 minutes ago, Meatbox8 said: It didn't seem to take long to get this thing in to service, or at least not when compared to the F-35. I wonder what that says about its capabilities. It also depends on what "in service" means. We know that The first USAF F-35 units have achieved IOC last year and other units are operating in the training role. The status of the J-20 in Chinese military service is unfortunately not clear, it was declared in service but this could mean anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junglierating Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I reckon a crate of oranges is pretty straight and I'm not taking the pith Just now, junglierating said: I reckon a crate of oranges is pretty stealthy and I'm not taking the pith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Meatbox8 said: It didn't seem to take long to get this thing in to service, or at least not when compared to the F-35. I wonder what that says about its capabilities. The airframe aspects of the F-35 haven't really changed much...it's the software and data integration that have been the long poles in the tent. Unfortunately the footage of the J-20 says nothing about its capabilities as a combat airframe, which is far more than just it's shape and stealth capabilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallyinoz Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 And I thought the F-35 was ugly! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 10 hours ago, wallyinoz said: And I thought the F-35 was ugly! It's not pretty, is it? Looks like something out of Battle for the Planets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 10 hours ago, wallyinoz said: And I thought the F-35 was ugly! F-35 might not be the prettiest aircraft out there but it's a country mile better-looking than its Boeing competitor, the X-32 which is so ugly it could be French. I think the airframe designer was watching a David Attenborough programme about Basking Sharks when he came up with this fugly design. As to the J-20, it's not much of a looker. It seems oddly long and strangely boxy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 I suppose the J-20 would be stealthy in Chinese airspace. You would never see it in all that pollution. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLC1966 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, mhaselden said: F-35 might not be the prettiest aircraft out there but it's a country mile better-looking than its Boeing competitor, the X-32 which is so ugly it could be French. + 1 Quality, need to remember that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jure Miljevic Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Hello, Mhaselden and PLC1966 Oh, you mean as ugly as Mirage III or Mirage 2000? Or perhaps aesthetic nightmares like Caravelle, Mercure and Gazelle if we also count airliners and helicopters? Cheers Jure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLC1966 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 43 minutes ago, Jure Miljevic said: Hello, Mhaselden and PLC1966 Oh, you mean as ugly as Mirage III or Mirage 2000? Or perhaps aesthetic nightmares like Caravelle, Mercure and Gazelle if we also count airliners and helicopters? Cheers Jure Jure my friend, the Gentleman made me laugh, it was my type of humour, and humour is something that if you have to explain it you don't understand it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Jure Miljevic said: Hello, Mhaselden and PLC1966 Oh, you mean as ugly as Mirage III or Mirage 2000? Or perhaps aesthetic nightmares like Caravelle, Mercure and Gazelle if we also count airliners and helicopters? Cheers Jure More like this collection of beauties: Now it has to be said that many countries, not least the Brits, created some equally ugly airframes (Blackburn Blackburn anyone?) but the French did take ugly to new levels. And for the record, my tongue is ever so slightly in my cheek, 'cos the Mirage series are very good looking aircraft. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jure Miljevic Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Hello, Mhaselden and PLC1966 I know exactly what you mean and for me it is Breguet Provence/Sahara/Deux-Ponts ... which I have trouble even to look at: However, along with hideous ones, many airplanes of pure elegance (and in most cases, with performance to match) have been produced in the last century or so, starting with Deperdussin Monocoque. I think in the case of France The Good outweighs The Bad and The Ugly. Cheers Jure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Jure, That last one's a cracker! Never seen it before but it kindda reinforces the (slightly irreverent) point I'm making. As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jure Miljevic Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Absolutely so, Mark. Thank you and cheers Jure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael51 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 On 3/20/2017 at 11:54 PM, mhaselden said: F-35 might not be the prettiest aircraft out there but it's a country mile better-looking than its Boeing competitor, the X-32 which is so ugly it could be French. I think the airframe designer was watching a David Attenborough programme about Basking Sharks when he came up with this fugly design. As to the J-20, it's not much of a looker. It seems oddly long and strangely boxy. French? French? je ne crois pas. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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