Panzer Vor!!! Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 The Elephant is on show in the museum while the expo is not yet complete 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spruecutter96 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 That's very good news! I'm hoping to see it at the first Tiger Day, or - failing that - sometime in May. Cheers for the info. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Just a small point, but Bovingdon is in Hertfordshire somewhere. The Museum is at Bovington. I believe this will be the first time that anyone has assembled under one roof all surviving Tiger variants - bar one. There will be a 1, both types of 2, a Jagd and the Elefant. The missing survivor is a Sturmtiger: I understand the Museum is still negotiating to borrow one from Germany. If they can manage it this is likely to be a once-in-a-lifetime exhibition. Not forgetting the Bovington Jagdtiger is already unique anyway as the only survivor of the 12 built with Porsche suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridge Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) On 12/3/2017 at 13:05, Das Abteilung said: Just a small point, but Bovingdon is in Hertfordshire somewhere. The Museum is at Bovington. I believe this will be the first time that anyone has assembled under one roof all surviving Tiger variants - bar one. There will be a 1, both types of 2, a Jagd and the Elefant. The missing survivor is a Sturmtiger: I understand the Museum is still negotiating to borrow one from Germany. If they can manage it this is likely to be a once-in-a-lifetime exhibition. Not forgetting the Bovington Jagdtiger is already unique anyway as the only survivor of the 12 built with Porsche suspension. the would need a late version tiger I, something like the one they have in Saumur, there are several around and it would be awesome if they decide do build a full scale model of a porsche tiger I prototype, i wouldn't care if it's made of fiber glass, just to have the complete spectrum of the tiger models. Edited April 13, 2017 by cambridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocky05d Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Where did they get it from ,and why didn't anyone tell me ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 If we're looking at both earlier and later variants, then they would also need a standard production Jagdtiger and the Ferdinand from Kubinka. I was intending to convey that all surviving types of Tiger were present, not all variants of all types. That would be impossible. I was privileged enough to be there last Thursday on the exhibition opening day. The Elefant was certainly impressive. The Jagdtiger has finally shed its old dubious yellow-spotted grey finish for overall Mittelsand, and I have to say I was both glad and underwhelmed. As it was a vehicle retained at Sennelager for trials that finish may be historically correct: pictures of it at the time of capture appear to show a plain finish. But a 3-colour scheme would have been far more impressive. I also wish they would repair the missing suspension unit: It can't be beyond the wit of man to replicate it, even in non-original materials. I think they may have switched the bogies around: old photos show the missing bogie on the left but I recall that the left side is now complete - the side that is presented - and that the missing bogie is now rear right. Online photos don't show it and I didn't take any of it. I could be mistaken: senior memory moment. The production KIng Tiger is also still missing a couple of outer roadwheels. Strangely, the "pre-production" King Tiger (to use the Museum's nomenclature for the original curved-fronted turret) has lost its nice 3-colour scheme for overall Mittelsand devoid even of markings. That was very disappointing: the camouflage paintwork was in good order and adequately representative, and again I think it has reduced the visual impact considerably. Sadly the Sturmtiger loan deal hasn't happened, although the German defence minister was there for the opening and was apparently lobbied to speak with Panzermuseum Munster about it. World Of Tanks have apparently produced a Virtual Reality Sturmtiger, but it's not the same. A space has been left for it, so we can but hope. I agree that it would be nice if "missing" tanks could be replicated, but don't underestimate the cost and time: you don't want them looking like oversize toys. The museum's running WW1 MkIV is a full replica and the MkIV on the trench display is a mock-up. You'd also potentially need a museum 4 or 5 times the size. Lots of vehicles are already off the museum floor out in the Conservation Centre, as exhibitions and displays are rotated. Work will soon begin behind it on a brand new workshop building, so perhaps we will see an increase in restorations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 12 hours ago, cocky05d said: Where did they get it from ,and why didn't anyone tell me ?. Its the one from Aberdeen in the USA didn,t know you were into AFV,s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 5 hours ago, Das Abteilung said: Sadly the Sturmtiger loan deal hasn't happened, although the German defence minister was there for the opening and was apparently lobbied to speak with Panzermuseum Munster about it It does not belong to Munster , its owned by someone or some organisation who refused and do not want any publicity according to buddy on the staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 On 3/9/2017 at 11:35, spruecutter96 said: I'm hoping to see it at the first Tiger Day, or - failing that - sometime in May. You can read your new books before you go chap Looking forward to Tiger day but any day with a Tigger is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocky05d Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 9 hours ago, Panzer Vor!!! said: Its the one from Aberdeen in the USA didn,t know you were into AFV,s Hi ,yes i do Aircraft and Tanks ,also Military lorries ,did i read somewhere that all the tanks are being moved or have moved and the general public are now not allowed to visit . Most of the Museums i have visited in America have been Aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Interesting, Panzer Vor. My info also came from a senior staff member at the Museum on opening day. One wonders why someone might own something as unique as a Sturmtiger and then shy away from publicity and people seeing it. Nothing to be ashamed of and Bovington is a well-respected enterprise to be associated with. Ultimately I suppose it doesn't matter: the deal was not done. It's a shame, but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Not everyone wants to be known but it is on display they did not want for it to loaned to the Tank Museum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinbear Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I attended this year's sell-out Tankfest on Saturday for the first time. What a great event! Aircraft are really my thing but I have a soft spot for armour as well as warships. My brother and I didn't spend too long in the museum as we wanted to watch the action in the arena but given the museum's size and the number of exhibits then a return trip on a quieter day is a must not least to see the Tiger exhibition when there are fewer people around. The sight, sound and smell of various vehicles tearing round the arena was terrific with of course the heavy armour making the greatest impression. I did take the cameras but didn't get them out simply because of the dust which was a shame but there you go. There were plenty of stalls for those who like a bit of retail therapy, re-enactors for those who like that sort of thing and lots of helpful staff. We were slightly bemused by the length of the queue of those people who wanted to play World of Tanks on the computers instead of watching the real things but each to their own. For the price of £23 I thought this was a great value day out and a well done and thank you to all of the staff for making it so enjoyable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badder Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I haven't been to Bovington since I was a nipper, and before I got into model-making. So I'm thinking after 40 yrs it's about time I went again and dragged the mrs along with me. Badder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnid Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Is the elephant in the room ? Lol😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HL-10 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 On 26/06/2017 at 10:44 AM, Latinbear said: We were slightly bemused by the length of the queue of those people who wanted to play World of Tanks on the computers instead of watching the real things but each to their own. Did you see the free, disposable stools they were giving to the people queuing? A great weekend with loads to see. The size of the Elephant was impressive. Booked for next year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinbear Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 6 hours ago, HL-10 said: Did you see the free, disposable stools they were giving to the people queuing? A great weekend with loads to see. The size of the Elephant was impressive. Booked for next year! I did but we couldn't be bothered to queue to get one. World of Tanks is not something I was familiar with but my brother told me all about it. I may just have to have a delve purely for educational reasons you understand.......... 19 hours ago, Badder said: I haven't been to Bovington since I was a nipper, and before I got into model-making. So I'm thinking after 40 yrs it's about time I went again and dragged the mrs along with me. Badder. I'm sure she'll love it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 I understand that Tankfest is a sellout every year and has a season ticket holder I could go but 21.000 on the Sat was mentioned ---too many me thinks for that place to be comfortable If youve being once then the display does not change that much tbh but my main complaint is the attention given to GERMAN TANKS !! Yes the Tiger display is brillant and welcome but We invented the tank more attention to our vehicles The Rolls Royce Armoured car drove round first followed by Leos!! Do we need three German Leos staring the display ?? Why not any of the following Chieftain Chally Centurion Surely the Tank Museum in the UK should start with a BRITISH TANK !!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HL-10 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 They did a very British display in the arena. Challenger I & II, Chieftain, Challenger, Chieftain & Centurion recovery vehicles, Vickers mkI, to name a few. They even had the replica Mk IV doing a slow lap. In fact this year the German armour, apart from the Leopards, in the arena was limited to the PanzerIII, a Kettenkraftrad, and a replica A7V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Vor!!! Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 Im not arguing that the display includes Brit vehicles I just want them on first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny akes Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 0:42 AM, Das Abteilung said: Strangely, the "pre-production" King Tiger (to use the Museum's nomenclature for the original curved-fronted turret) has lost its nice 3-colour scheme for overall Mittelsand devoid even of markings. That was very disappointing: the camouflage paintwork was in good order and adequately representative, and again I think it has reduced the visual impact considerably. Although possibly more authentic? This picture was taken in August 1968 (that's me, top left within a few days of my 8th birthday - no H&S around then!!) so while not conclusive with regards its original finish it shows the Mittelsand scheme was applied previously, and a lot closer proximity to the war than now! Regards J.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsman Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Yes. I have since discovered that it has been re-painted to the documented condition it was in when captured. Likewise the Jagdtiger, which you may recall sported that awful scheme of sand spots over panzer grey for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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