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9 hours ago, Dave Fleming said:

 

 

Might get one to do as late mark mk III

 

Working from memory, there was a bit of discrepancy in some published sources about where the F3 production ended and the F4 started (possibly because as other than a small intake in the nacelle they were pretty much identical)

I had the same idea. However looking at pictures of the G.41E's (long-nacelle MK III's) it appears that also the rear portion of the nacelle was differently shaped, as the Meteor 4's Derwent 5's should have a wider diameter nozzle than the Derwent 1 thru 4's used in the G.41E's.

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16 hours ago, TimK said:

Dave, thanks for your information about Moreton Valence. It's clear now that my photo of EE455 from the rear was a Gloster company photo taken there, as were most of the other posed images. My suggestion that it was at Manston is wrong. Several Oxfords in the background in this one.HS%20Meteor%20EE455%20P133%20Oxfords_zpsSo knowing now that this set of images was taken at Moreton Valence, with the outer wings in natural metal, it reopens the possibility (likelihood even) that the wings were painted yellow before EE455 went to Herne Bay to attempt the record.

Tim

 

Er, what? We have one set of pictures with short wings in natural metal (or alu paint), apparently well before the '46 record attempts, and one set of pictures taken during the '46 record attempts with long wings in natural metal (or alu paint).   How does this create a likelihood of there being yellow-painted wings in the middle?

 

It's fine to speculate aboyut hypotheticals but Is it too much to espect at least one picture or contemporaneous report from a reliable witness describing the aircraft as having yellow outer wings during this period before assigning a notion of "likelihood"?

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On 05/04/2017 at 9:21 AM, Pete57 said:

I had the same idea. However looking at pictures of the G.41E's (long-nacelle MK III's) it appears that also the rear portion of the nacelle was differently shaped, as the Meteor 4's Derwent 5's should have a wider diameter nozzle than the Derwent 1 thru 4's used in the G.41E's.

 

 

Interesting, looking at pics I can just about see that - IIIs having a longer/narrower exhaust - more research needed!

 

Fall back position - one of the High Speed Flight camo'd aircraft!

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  • 4 months later...

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This is very much off-topic, but I can't find a more appropriate thread.

 

Does anyone do a conversion to make an accurate very late Meteor Mark III with "long nacelles", preferably in 1/72nd ?

 

Supposedly there were 12 (?) of them.  Does anyone know their serial numbers (and appropriate camo) ?

 

Thanks.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Phil Gollin said:

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This is very much off-topic, but I can't find a more appropriate thread.

 

Does anyone do a conversion to make an accurate very late Meteor Mark III with "long nacelles", preferably in 1/72nd ?

 

Supposedly there were 12 (?) of them.  Does anyone know their serial numbers (and appropriate camo) ?

 

Thanks.

 

 

Phil, 

AFAIK, the above SH Meteor Mk. IV Record Breaker kit comes complete with everything you need to build a late long nacelle Mk.III.

Normal Day fighter camouflage would be the order of the day as I've not seen any photographs of these aircraft is HSS finish.

The serials are probably the last 12 or so from the Mk.III production batch. I've seen these listed somewhere however cannot confirm them at this very moment.

This SH kit can basically be build into a late III, IV, or as depicted as one of four Record breaking schemes.

The 4 x 20mm cannons are still intact on the original sprues and the instructions suggest to file and fill them if building Yellow Peril etc.

 

Hope this helps.

Cheers.. Dave   

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1 hour ago, Phil Gollin said:

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This is very much off-topic, but I can't find a more appropriate thread.

 

Does anyone do a conversion to make an accurate very late Meteor Mark III with "long nacelles", preferably in 1/72nd ?

 

Supposedly there were 12 (?) of them.  Does anyone know their serial numbers (and appropriate camo) ?

 

Thanks.

 

 

The last 15 F3s EE479 - EE493 were built with the longer nacelles but other F3s were retrofitted with them as well.

 

Steve

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4 hours ago, Phil Gollin said:

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Thanks for those answers.

 

So a Derwent long nacelle was identical to a Derwent V long nacelle ?

 

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Phil, it's not too bad a conversion if you simply cross kit two kits. If you want to do a cheapo hack job as a trial, you could use the old Airfix FIII with a Frog (or a Russian pressing) FIV. Still would work out cheaper than a resin conv. and probably more fun.

 

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Only just seen this topic. I couldn't work out whether or not it had been decided if it had the yellow wings for the record attempt (or at any other time). Has anybody found the definitive answer?

This is my version produced by adding wing extensions to the Revell F4.

 

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John

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2 hours ago, Work In Progress said:

 However I am a strong believer in making your models however they please you.

I am in full agreement but as I specialise in oddballs and one-offs I like to get them as right as I can.

John

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On 3/24/2017 at 10:06 PM, Madoc said:

Great finds with those videos there!

 

And they had to be absolutely insane to be doing such high speed runs at those low altitudes.  A single pigeon bridstrike could've been lethal at that speed and lack of height!

And no ejection seat either!

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It's certainly not without its hazards, but nor it is a particularly unusual risk for military aviation. They were required to stay below 75 metres, which is 246 feet, for the record runs in those days, and it was a high speed for its day but it's only about 540 knots which makes it sound less scary. Buccaneers and Swifts used to do that speed, and more, right down on the deck  on regular service just a few years later. Even the Hawk trainer operates routine missions at 420 knots at 250 feet today.

 

Birdstrikes are definitely nasty in any aeroplane at any speed but you've got an armour glass windscreen on a Meteor, which helps.

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I have just been given this photo by a friend of a friend. His dad is in the a/c and was taken at Tangmere.

 

I have only ever  seen a profile of this a/c which had white codes - I'd say 99% not.

 

Any thoughts?

 

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Hello, Iain,

 

I`m afraid you are mistaken about the a/c being taken at Tangmere. The WW1 hangers were bombed during the War and replaced by " T type " ones post-war. These in the photo are Pre-War ones.

 

Steve.

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7 hours ago, iainpeden said:

I have just been given this photo by a friend of a friend. His dad is in the a/c and was taken at Tangmere.

 

I have only ever  seen a profile of this a/c which had white codes - I'd say 99% not.

 

Any thoughts?

The codes are not white in that photo for sure.

The Special Hobby kit has them as Sky, which is plausible looking at your photo, but the kit decal sheet omits the outlines which are clearly visible on the letters in the photo.   Xtradecal did them as white with a thin black outline.

However, as we know, things like this can and do change overnight in the life of an aeroplane, especially where Very Senior Officers are prone to tinkering to the extent to having custom paint jobs on their personal runabouts.

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4 minutes ago, Work In Progress said:

The codes are not white. 

The Special Hobby kit has them as Sky.

Mmmm...but, looking at the OP's photo, they seem darker than Sky and are outlined in a much darker colour. They might be even be roundel red outlined in roundel blue?

 

As it's an AOC's aircraft a bit of non-standard might be expected, especially as the main aircraft colour is a special one.

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