heloman1 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Hi Bill, I'll be following your build with interest as I have 72nd one to build. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, canberra kid said: I've been out in the snow and sleet to the hanger(garage) and got the window, as you can perhaps see from the photo it's not symmetrical, but in 1/48 it won't make any difference, the measurements on the distance from the window to the end of the fuselage is 11,1/2 inch. John Thanks John, I appreciate your sacrifice, just hope it wasn't too early for you . So I am going for a foot back, a foot wide by 2/3 foot deep. I am glad it's not fully symmetrical as that can account for any non squareness when cutting out . So a quick measure gives me this I'm off out to do some Saturday stuff on hopefully get on it later, Cheers now Bob Edited February 11, 2017 by moaning dolphin Auto correct.....again! And correcting my fractions! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Enjoy your Saturday stuff Bob, the window looks good to me! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) I managed to get a big of Saturday stuff done. I started to volunteer at he local air museum so had to brush off some rusty skills, it was nice to do some 'proper' work again now I've become a desk pilot! This is what we've been doing. And the beast we are trying to put back together, she's a bit of a state but it'll be fun trying, extra brownie points if you can guess what she is, not what you may think though! Back to the kit I did manage to get the underside window cut out and you can see where I need to chop out the inner part of the cockpit insert. Once the fuselage sides are together I will tidy the inside and the get a piece of suitable clear plastic to fashion a window I then turned my eye to some serious chopping up of the fuselage. I had heard that caution had to be observed when cutting out. Looking at the instructions it seems to follow the rear panel lines so I carefully followed them It seems to fit OK, the only issue I found was it doesn't quite extend to the panel line. This leaves a small gap. Not the end of the world, I can squeeze a shim in there later. But good thing about chopping all that away is that it will give me plenty of room to clutter up the cockpit once the fuselage is together Then it was back to the chopping up to fit another side window Another tight fit but does go in well. Unfortunately the plastic is thick, and when I say thick I mean THICK! it's probably thicker than the skin on the real thing. Which makes chopping it up laborious. But we can't have everything! And the window being super glued in. It ain't coming out now! So that's where we are now. I have a soccer game up in the north of the province which will take up most of the day. Tomorrow though we are expecting 60cm of snow all day so I may have a bonus day then! Until then, Laters Bob Edited February 12, 2017 by moaning dolphin Poor editing! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 it's always a cloth touching moment when you first start cutting into a kit to remove such large areas nice chopping though ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 40 minutes ago, moaning dolphin said: extra brownie points if you can guess what she is Well it looks to me like a Canso/PBY/Catalina. I have been known to be wrong at times though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, Pete in Lincs said: Canso Yep right with the first one. I never knew they existed until I bumped into this old girl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Lovely old aeroplanes with a proud service history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 It's great to volunteer work on real aircraft and so much of the experience can be transferred across to modelling, even if it involves different types of aircraft. Lovely work on the Canberra there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Good start on very interesting subject! I am well up for this! Martian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Well it's a Monday and thanks to a hooooooge storm I am on a snow day so what to do, hmm yard work or something in doors in the warm. So seizing the opportunity I got in the cave. I busied up the back of the instrument panel with lots of different wires and then bundled and routed them. Everything here will be black and after painting I'll add a few bundles of white and other coloured wires. You will also see I got some milliput out for a cushion. So of course I always mix up way too much so made some padding for the nose walls. And of course I still had way too much left over so I quickly made some seat cushions for later. And of course I still had loads left over.......but couldn't think of anything else to make so made a cube and left it at that! In the mean time I will move my attentions to the main and rear cockpits. Lots more work in there. I did knock up the seats and these don't look good at all! I removed all the details apart from the cylinder tank and will start afresh, but for now it's time to dig out some storm chips and watch the snow pile up! Laters! Bob 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 That's looking very nice Bob, I'm glad you didn't go for resin seat's over the kit ones, they are much closer than any resin 2cs I've seen (apart from the SIG ones) the best available 2cs is the Aeroclub white metal one. Keep up the good work! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I'm late to see this Bob but along for the ride now. Lovely wiring and chopping, you brave lad! Tony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 hour ago, TheBaron said: I'm late to see this Bob but along for the ride now. Lovely wiring and chopping, you brave lad! Tony Welcome along, you think that chopping is bad wait until you see the wing fold Well with the storm still raging it's fruitless trying to clear the drive so that can wait, it was back into the cave and a look at those seats. They will all be the same and the best one will go in the pilots seat. The others will go into the back coal hole. Here you can see Mk 1 effort. Along way to go but an OK start. I also did a bit if internal panelling just behind the pilot seat, adding a bit more thickness to that which Airfix provides. Well that's all for now Bob 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Hi Bob, I've never brushed a rusty skill before, is that quite difficult? What size brush would you use??? The cockpit is looking seriously tit, especially the back of IP wiring. The Catalina don't look too shabby either... Colin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, heloman1 said: I've never brushed a rusty skill before, is that quite difficult? What size brush would you use??? For me it would have to be a very large one! Bob PS 5 minutes ago, heloman1 said: The Catalina don't look too shabby either Shes not a Catalina, I called her that once and was quickly corrected, she is a Canso 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Just now, moaning dolphin said: For me it would have to be a very large one! Bob PS Shes not a Catalina, I called her that once and was quickly corrected, she is a Canso Ooooooops, sorry. Never heard of one, so I was in the dark. Glad you had a large brush... Colin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrp Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 She is a PBY-5A Catalina . She is also the oldest surviving PBY 5-A in a museum. The crew Bob works with like to call her a Canso and no amount of stating the obvious works with them ! Canso A was designation of Canadian built ( Boeing in Vancouver and Canadian Vickers in Montreal) and were used by the RCAF. To confuse matters Vickers also built a large number of OA-10A Catalinas for the USAAF . The particular airframe that Bob is kindly working on, was built by Consolidated in San Diego > It was used by the US Navy on the East Coast of the States from 1943 until the end of war , flying out of Norfolk Virginia.After the war it served with the US Coast Guard, eventually ending up hauling freight on the East Coast of Canada with Eastern Provincial Airlines. It crashed in thew wilds of Labrador hauling diesel fuel into remote sites. It was subsequently recovered(1986) in an epic adventure, involving an CAF Chinook and Huey, along with a ferry ride and trucked to the Atlantic Canada Aviation Museum in Halifax NS. Its a Catalina plain and simple, except to the crew working on it! MRP 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 See I haven't been there that long and I am getting brainwashed already! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 How about it's a Catalina but being refurbished as a tribute to the Canso crews? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 So progress has continued at a slow pace, but I seem to find I am spending more time trawling through references than I do on the tools. I don't know much about the Canberra but am learning more all the time about this graceful beast. The last session was spent on the ejection seat. I removed all the molded detail apart from the oxygen cylinder and then started rebuilding. I found some nice clear picks of the back on @canberra kid IMPS UK Canberra site. I huge hive of info. I don't think I've scratched the surface in there. Any hoo I've tried to replicate it as well as I can. Not the best pictures as I am using my phone, it'll do for now but I think I need to look at a better camera. I am starting to wish that I thinned down the bucket section as well, it seems to be quite chunky. I need to do the myriad of harnesses next and the I'll paint her up to see how she looks. Until then, Laters! Bob 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 The seat is looking great! Martian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Just getting towards completion of the airfix Martin B57 in 1/48, so well pleased to find this wee project. I think a lot of parts are shared, including 3 of the little fellows, and extra long bay doors!? You can always make a ventriloquist diorama thing. Good luck with the build, and make some extra space - the airframe is huge. If you search "EB57B" in wip you'll get my first effort at a thread, but I don't think you'll learn much from me! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 On Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Martian Hale said: The seat is looking great! 23 hours ago, rob Lyttle said: make some extra space - the airframe is huge. I have now looked into this, I may need to have a good rearrangement! Work has continued on the seat, I want it to look busy but refined. My biggest snag is harnesses, always harnesses. I find them tedious and they always look too chunky and generally a bit pants. Whilst pondering this I remembered a Buccaneer build. I have the Flightpath set which includes detail for the seats, I also had some nice Neomega seats which come fully dressed. So I had some harnesses going spare. I utilised these and this was the result I added some more ropes, hoses and rods and then went for a prime. Apologies for the poor photos but here we are To the officionados it may not look exact but I am going for a close look. I shall paint it up and see how good it looks, then do the other two, the best one will go into the front. I only have two sets of harnesses so the one behind the pilot will just have a rudimentary fit. The only question I have is on harness colours. I have seen black and blue, what would be right for a 70s fit or does it not really matter? Whilst I Potter on the seats and cockpit, I'll also be looking at the undercarriage bays, I want to detail them before it all goes together. The bomb Bay will be closed so that's one area I can ignore, but another question......on the stbd side is the crew hatch and just behind that is a large square panel which looks like an access door. What is behind that? Is it an electronics compartment? Is there any pictures of it? I've gone through a lot of the IPMS site but not seen inside it, there is a lot more to search through though! There's no reason behind this, I was just wondering......it's not like I am going to cut it out is it..... Laters Bob 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 ....seats look too chunky and generally a bit pants... Nope I'm not seeing that, me old Dolphin.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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