Navy Bird Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Russet is not a real word? Guess I'll have to take all those red-brown potatoes back to the store then... Cheers, Bill 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Apparently, 'Russet' as a name for a colour has been around since at least 1562: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russet_(color) Before that it seems it was the name of an itchy reddish brown material, enforced clothing for working class people. By decree. In England, of course. Conjures up images of the value system and clothing in the Monty Python 'repressed' sketch for me. They are nice spuds though 🥔. I needed to know what colour to paint a Spitfire seat today. Now I know all I need to do, is go and have a quick look at our potatoes 🥔 🥔 . Hope you get more than a silver pencil for your birthday PC. We might have to have a whip round for you if not . All the best TonyT 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Dear god, have you all been so nice to me because you genuinely think I'm simple? I know russet is a real colour. Little done tonight. Tried adding walkways on one Spitty, which is not one of my favourite things to attempt. 20170309_222846 by Edward IX, on Flickr For some reason the stencils seem prone to silvering, so I hit them with some Solvaset. We'll see if it settles their hash. I think the exhaust stacks came out nice, though, so that's something. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 19 minutes ago, Procopius said: Dear god, have you all been so nice to me because you genuinely think I'm simple? Of course not, mind you, that wasn't the first reply I thought of, or the second or third, but it was the first I dared type. Steve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 56 minutes ago, Procopius said: Dear god, have you all been so nice to me because you genuinely think I'm simple? Umm... no... no, of course not! I seem too have lost my decal-fu over the last year or so. I am thinking of using the Cookenbacher mask-and-paint method for the walkway markings in future as I can't imagine that being more stressful than transfers silvering left, right and centre. Those russet exhausts do look rather nice, too Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thud4444 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Procopius said: Dear god, have you all been so nice to me because you genuinely think I'm simple? I know russet is a real colour. No, no. I like to think of you as Britmodelers own Ralph Wiggims. Edited March 10, 2017 by Thud4444 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Beema Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I use a different approach to chipping. I spray the airframe with a silver acrylic rattle can I buy from Halfords straight over the plastic (frequently whilst the model is still on the spruce then touch up after sanding etc. I spray my camouflage over the top of that using Xtracrylics. The Halfords paint is harder than Xtracrylics so you can wear away the top surface with a cocktail stick leaving the silver underneath. Bit of Matt coat and you get a feasonable representation.. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Nice walkways, nice exhausts, nice LE stripes, good job PC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christer A Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Walkways before roundels, yep that's another good Spitfire axiom! Shaping up nicely I think! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 11 hours ago, Thud4444 said: No, no. I like to think of you as Britmodelers own Ralph Wiggims. Left out one of my favourites: "Smell that, Ralph? That's the smell of justice." "It smells like hot dogs." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Do worry when people are too nice to you... I know I do. Great Spit though, and the walkways look very convincing and straight. Furthermore, russet has a nice ring to it. I like it. jr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I think I may have been somewhat remiss in not applying the plaudits your work deserves, they're nothing if not exemplary in their execution. They're pretty darn good as well. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, Procopius said: I know russet is a real colour. I also know this- my wife has a very pretty silk gown in russet. I will certainly remember to not mention that her 'wow the client' business dress is a good match for an oxidised Spitfire exhaust. She also has a stunning evening gown in Eau De Nil which is no longer worn in my company because I happened once to say that it was a close match to the under surfaces of a spitfire. She would not be told that the colour was very fashionable in the 30s when the RAF also used it. Will Come to think of it, the dress she wore during our wedding breakfast was very close to Extra Dark Sea Grey.... and I wore a dark green suit, so I suppose together we were in the temperate sea scheme... Edited March 10, 2017 by Killingholme 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 So I flipped things around and decided the other IXe will be a French aircraft in late 1944 with French roundels and overpainted RAF markings. The overpainting of the roundels obliterated parts of the wing walk lines, so I resolved to do the overpainting after I put them on. Fortunately I had a circle template left over from a failed foray into armour (many kits were bought, none were built, all were resold at a loss -- result!), so I found a circle that matched up with the RAF roundel: 20170310_215726 by Edward IX, on Flickr I overlaid it on the wing exactly as you see here, and sprayed Gunze RAF Dark Green lacquer -- this has the twin virtues of being quick to dry, and also distinctively different colour-wise from the Colourcoats RAF Dark Green. 20170310_215655 by Edward IX, on Flickr Tada! Not perfect, but not a disastrous first attempt. 20170310_215646 by Edward IX, on Flickr 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Good job Edward, a Frenchie, eh? Excellent addition to the parade of international Spitfires Nice job on the oversprayed roundels too Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 That looks good. Gives it a field applied look to repaint the brit markings. Doubt they would have brushed/sprayed a perfect circle 🤘🏿 I did something similar but in 48th for a US spit - Great minds and all that... Also, next month I was going to do the soviet and frog spits along with some other foreign ones for my Quattro combo. Need to find some other decals now... Seen some turkish ones at the big yellow H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Très bon PC - nice overspraying, great control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Some hot and direct circular action there in that last post PC. William of Ockham redux Tony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTiger66 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 That worked. I think the key was that you didn't russ et. T 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 If the roundel were to be over-sprayed by a Swiss, the circle would have been perfect. For a roundel over-painted by a French, a square will do! Great show in using a different green. Except it is a mistake: the French were known to use russet.... JR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, jean said: Except it is a mistake: the French were known to use russet.... 5 hours ago, TonyTiger66 said: I think the key was that you didn't russ et. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 39 minutes ago, jean said: If the roundel were to be over-sprayed by a Swiss, the circle would have been perfect. For a roundel over-painted by a French, a square will do! Great show in using a different green. Except it is a mistake: the French were known to use russet.... JR and a great pun from TT I love your threads PC, great modelling, human interest, a few giggles and so educational (even if I do have to look things up). For other numbskulls like me William of Ockham is attributed with 'Occam's Razor' (the easy solution is often the best) and 'redux' is Latin for returning or bring back. More stuff for my small brain. The Muppets always have a suitable quote... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 Well, Mrs P got sick from her students, and then she got Winston sick, and then he got me sick, again, a causal chain I'm growing incredibly sick of. As a boy my father forbade me from getting closer than ten feet away if I was sick, and now I see why. A sick little boy by Edward IX, on Flickr My mother in law is also in town -- hooray -- but it did mean I got to take an enormously long nap today, so I raise my glass to her, from a safe distance. In any case, I felt spry and rested (albeit with a sore throat and drugged up on cold medicine) and so set about decalling with a vengeance. I realized, however, that I'd failed to "paint over" the fuselage roundels on the French Spitfire, so had to get out my template. Regrettably, the appropriately-sized circle was in an inconvenient spot on the template, but nothing's impossible when you don't care too much about doing a good job. 20170311_214059 by Edward IX, on Flickr I applied the codes and serials first, then sprayed. One side got a bit bollixed up because there was a stray hair that teleported onto it, but hopefully self-leveling thinner will sort it out. On the plus side, it resulted in a partially-painted over stencil, which is a cool little detail, don't you think? 20170311_213822 by Edward IX, on Flickr The other side came out rather better. 20170311_213836 by Edward IX, on Flickr An enthusiastic application of Solvaset damaged one wing decal, but thanks to my new Prismacolor pencils (which I received today, and which don't seem to be my birthday present), I think we can make it look like "weathering" rather than "clumsiness". 20170311_213852 by Edward IX, on Flickr Also got started on Gabszewicz's F.IX. (Fun fact for my Polish readers: I am terrible at pronouncing words I've only read -- and not just foreign ones -- and I was saying it Gab-see-wicks until a kindly Polish coworker took pity on me.) 20170311_223312 by Edward IX, on Flickr Honestly, I think Eduard's "boxing dog" is rather poor. Techmod's looks much nicer. I also started on the Soviet one. The lightning bolt is a three-part decal, and involves a lot of holding one's breath: 20170311_225054 by Edward IX, on Flickr The state of play at close of the evening: 20170311_224753 by Edward IX, on Flickr If I'm not dead tomorrow and I have time after more house showings, I hope to do more. But don't I always? 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Wow those really are looking superb now Edward; that Soviet one in particular is going to be one striking-looking model when it is done Cheers, Stew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 That is going to be a very varied impressive line up. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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