tonyot Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) Hiya Folks, While still laid up I`ve begun to whittle about with some plastic again and have started my Canadian Firefly 2 seat trainer using the Belcher Bits conversion set which is designed for the Grand Phoenix kit and as I had one of these in the stash I was all set to start; Here is the Belcher Bits conversion complete with decals, a second cockpit and vacuformed parts which appear to have come from Barracuda Models; A close up of the main raised 2nd cockpit resin part; The Grand Phoenix kit needs to be cut; And as the Grand Phoenix kit has a rather long spinner (on the left) I`ve decided to try a spare one from an Airfix Mosquito kit (on the right); Hopefully this is what it will look like in an overall yellow scheme, as you can see I`ll need to add strengthening strakes to the side of the fuselage! The RCN had four unarmed T.1`s and a pair of T.2`s which had two 20mm cannons, one in each wing and here, below is a T.2; . The Dutch and British also flew these 2 cockpit Firefly`s as seen here, most of the British aircraft were silver with yellow trainer bands and the vast majority of British aircraft also had the original smaller windscreen and flat canopy fitted to the front cockpit, unlike the Dutch and Canadian aircraft; I also have this book which will come in really handy for reference; So wish me luck, Cheers Tony Edited March 5, 2017 by tonyot 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 This looks like a seriously cool project, count me it! Martian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Wot 'e said! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Oh, now you've done it, Tony- I didn't know (or didn't remember) that Belcher even HAD this conversion! Let's see, where's my wallet? bob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 You've got my attention again with this one Tony. Sorry to hear you're still laid up though. Hope things are going in the right direction for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Great choice of subject Tony, I'll follow with interest. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 looks a very interesting project, I'll pull up a chair. If the Belcher conversion is as good a conversion as his armour ones I've used recently, it will be quality. Hope you are going make it to Huddesfield on Sunday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I am already beginning to think I need this conversion set! You are a bad influence Mr O'Toole! Martian the Easily Influenced 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hiya Folks, Ooops`s,..... sorry for being a bad influence again everybody! Well after a bit of fettling and filing I`ve managed to fit the resin cockpit part OK and here it is test fitted; I`ve also painted the interior although I got a bit carried away with the silver dry brushing, so will apply some more black to tidy it up a bit; Before joining the fuselage parts together I`ll assemble the wings first but that means removing the awful lump of resin attached to the top part of the resin wheel wells as otherwise the wings will not close together,..... so that is my task for the evening! Last time I built the Grand Phoenix kit I broke into the wheel well itself, so wish me luck, All the best Tony 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 38 minutes ago, Silver Fox said: looks a very interesting project, I'll pull up a chair. If the Belcher conversion is as good a conversion as his armour ones I've used recently, it will be quality. Hope you are going make it to Huddesfield on Sunday Cheers Andy,....... I don`t think I`ll be fit enough for the show on Sunday, but I`ll try my best to make it as I`ve missed the last two as well! All the best Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Fox Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Take care mate. Plenty more model shows to go to once you are a bit more mobile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 28 minutes ago, tonyot said: Last time I built the Grand Phoenix kit I broke into the wheel well itself, so wish me luck, Yep been there done it, the plastic is hugely thick on the wings and it is a large lump of resin. There's a fine line between success and a hole in the wing or well! Best of luck! Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Great start Tony, I would normally stock up on popcorn, but you'll be finished before I get the bag out of the cupboard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickthebrief Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Tony, Always a pleasure to follow one of your builds, so I'm looking forward to this. From the profile at the top of your thread, it looks like the top of the fuselage behind the front cockpit should be a straight line to the base of the windscreen of the second cockpit; it might just be camera angles etc. but on the kit itself there looks to be a slope up to the windscreen on the resin insert? Or is this just where the fuselage has to widen out to accommodate the second cockpit? I've wanted to do a RN version for a while, so like others, might be tempted into a purchase...! Nick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 You have my interest. Chair pulled up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I like the looks of this one, count me in. I had a similar experience with the resin wheel wells for the 1:72 Special Hobby kits, and I used a razor saw to cut off the huge lump of resin on top of each. Sanding it all off would have taken a decade. Once it was removed, and all that was left was the wheel well with no excess resin, it fit like a charm. Cheers, Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Nice start Tony, its good to see that the fuselage insert if a good fit, thus weakening my already flabby resolve still further! Martian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyverns4 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Hi Tony, Looking good! And yet again you are tempting me towards the dark side! On-On! Christian, exiled to africa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, Nickthebrief said: Tony, Always a pleasure to follow one of your builds, so I'm looking forward to this. From the profile at the top of your thread, it looks like the top of the fuselage behind the front cockpit should be a straight line to the base of the windscreen of the second cockpit; it might just be camera angles etc. but on the kit itself there looks to be a slope up to the windscreen on the resin insert? Or is this just where the fuselage has to widen out to accommodate the second cockpit? I've wanted to do a RN version for a while, so like others, might be tempted into a purchase...! Nick. I know what you mean Nick, the resin part bulges out on either side as per the real aircraft but as it is only loosely fitted at the moment the profile of the top section does seem rather steep,.......when it is fixed down this is not as exaggerated but there is a tiny bit of a slope which I intend to sand to match the upper fuselage contours. If this conversion goes OK I might be tempted to buy another conversion to do a British aircraft, using a flat canopy and windscreen from the Special Hobby kit for the forward cockpit. Thanks for the kind remarks everybody,....... hopefully I`ll have some more progress shots soon as I`ve been removing the excess resin using a coping saw and a flat file.I might assemble the wings tonight, Cheers Tony Edited February 9, 2017 by tonyot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Hiya Folks, Here is another update; The wings have been assembled with the wheel wells pre painted using Humbrol Trainer Yellow; As you can see there was quite a bit of surplus resin to remove from the resin wheel wells, but at least I didn`t end up cutting through the thin roof, there is a small hole here but it was there before I started and cannot be seen from below; The cannon stubs will be cut off and sanded smooth later, but the cannon blisters appear to have been retained on the real aircraft' Onto the fuselage, the resin exhaust stubs, radiator and forward cockpit have been fitted to the left hand fuselage half,...I`ve just noticed that the right side cockpit wall needs to be taken off and re fitted,...... that`s what happens when you model in bad light without using your glasses! ; And here is the Belcher Bits rear cockpit section with its own interior fitted; Sorry about the resin dust on everything,........the kit box is full of the stuff despite cleaning it umpteen times! I`m going to add the seat harnesses and some weathering to the leather after I`ve managed to get out and buy some relevant paint. If I get the chance this evening I might just join the fuselage halves and fit the rear cockpit, Cheers for now, Tony Edited February 10, 2017 by tonyot 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Tidy work Tony. The cockpits in particular look great; dark enough to convey the 'inside of a coal bunker at night' effect but with the details still visible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Hi Tony, it's coming along very nicely. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Nice work Tony. Did the wheel wells give you much aggravation? Martian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 20 hours ago, Martian Hale said: Nice work Tony. Did the wheel wells give you much aggravation? Martian Haha,..... you could say that Martin! The big lump of resin moulded on top of the parts needs to be removed back down to a wafer thin upper crust. which is very easily broken through! The bottom of the cockpit floor also has a section of extra resin which needs to be removed too, otherwise the wings will not fit into place,....... and the resin is more like reinforced concrete to cut or file down! I`ve got an update to follow shortly, Cheers Tony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) Hiya Folks, Here is another update,..........after lots of whittling and sanding of resin I`ve joined the fuselage halves and attached the fuselage to the wings, also adding the tail. Now for lots of filler! I`ve fitted the Airfix Mossie spinner to the Grand Phoenix backplate,.... some sanding needs to be done but it should look OK, Also, I`ve liberated the canopy from another kit which was partially started and replaced it with the vacuformed set from the conversion kit, so that both canopies match. Cheers Tony Edited February 13, 2017 by tonyot 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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