PhantomBigStu Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Finshed an airfix lancaster, makes sense to do the new B-17G next, however I don't fancy the NMF in the kit, having no real knowlege about the fort and the different block no's varations what decals sheets cater for the one in the kit? I ask as I would like to do an all over OD example, or should I instead just buy the revell G? Edited February 1, 2017 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck1945 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 It is a later production B-17G after camouflage was discontinued so overall NMF if in USAAF marking. You could do RAF Fortress III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalX Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=b+17+decals+1/72&biw=1216&bih=561&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjb_dyJre_RAhWGjpA http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=bachmann+intermodal+flat+wagon&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xb17g+1%2F72+decals.TRS0&_nkw=b17g+1%2F72+decals&_sacat=0 there are loads here, just make sure you choose 1/72 and a B17G only..............your choice of decals for the B17 is massive Edited February 1, 2017 by MalX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhaselden Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Or wait for the Fortress MkIII release later this year and do one in RAF markings (100 Group)...unless, of course, you already have purchased the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 ... and if you have already bought the kit and want a painted RAF one then the DK 100 Group sheet is here: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/DKD72016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Chuck1945 said: It is a later production B-17G after camouflage was discontinued so overall NMF if in USAAF marking. You could do RAF Fortress III. 37 minutes ago, mhaselden said: Or wait for the Fortress MkIII release later this year and do one in RAF markings (100 Group)...unless, of course, you already have purchased the kit. 4 minutes ago, Work In Progress said: ... and if you have already bought the kit and want a painted RAF one then the DK 100 Group sheet is here: https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/DKD72016 I'm happy to wait to do a fort iii when it is released, I want to do a USAAF fort 1 hour ago, MalX said: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=b+17+decals+1/72&biw=1216&bih=561&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjb_dyJre_RAhWGjpA http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=bachmann+intermodal+flat+wagon&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xb17g+1%2F72+decals.TRS0&_nkw=b17g+1%2F72+decals&_sacat=0 there are loads here, just make sure you choose 1/72 and a B17G only..............your choice of decals for the B17 is massive Problem is many of them don't state the block number and I have no idea what's applicable to the airfix plastic, hence the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck1945 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, PhantomBigStu said: I'm happy to wait to do a fort iii when it is released, I want to do a USAAF fort Problem is many of them don't state the block number and I have no idea what's applicable to the airfix plastic, hence the thread Ok, if you really want to do a USAAF B-17 with the Airfix kit, you will need to either do a nmf or back date to an earlier block number. The Cheyenne tail turret was done as a mod before it was introduced on the various production lines although most were still nmf. Likewise the staggered waist gun arrangement on the kit is a late feature. If you really want a camouflaged USAAF B-17G, you will need to do some modifications to the Airfix kit or use Revell's B-17 which has the earlier waist windows and ( I think) a choice of tail gun options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJP Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 If you have the serial you can find the block number on Joe Baugher's site: http://www.joebaugher.com/ Lots of good stuff there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowen250 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The next release with the usaaf set is an olive drab machine. Not all late block models were silver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 22 minutes ago, snowen250 said: The next release with the usaaf set is an olive drab machine. Not all late block models were silver Correct - there were 300 camouflaged B-17Gs built by Douglas that had staggered waist guns and the Cheyenne turret fitted at the factory. As stated above, Airfix will be supplying a decal set for this with the USAAF set soon. I'm hoping other decal manufacturers will be able to produce some more decals for the camo Forts as I too hate natural metal finishes! Tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalX Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REVELL-Boeing-B-17-Fortress-11A-RAF-Coastal-Command-1-72-vgc-serial-H-213-/262829796874?hash=item3d31e06e0a:g:iaMAAOSwNnRYjza9 that might be interesting to someone................nice rare kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, RJP said: If you have the serial you can find the block number on Joe Baugher's site: http://www.joebaugher.com/ Lots of good stuff there. I shall go through the serials on the decal sheets, see if I can find one to buy, not going to be buying the supply set, unless I can sell the vehicles on for a fair price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antb Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 11 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said: Finshed an airfix lancaster, makes sense to do the new B-17G next, however I don't fancy the NMF in the kit, having no real knowlege about the fort and the different block no's varations what decals sheets cater for the one in the kit? I ask as I would like to do an all over OD example, or should I instead just buy the revell G? Hi PBS, whats making you not fancy the NMF? You don't like the look or don't fancy painting it? Only reason i on I ask is I'm building this very kit and have gone NMF using Humbrol silver rattle can. It's come up really nicely and wasn't too difficult to do. Just make sure you mask the clear parts and you're onto a winner. Have a a look at my WIP if you want, one of the options I'm building is OOB. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Preference, I do prefer the OD, but yeah I don't fancy using a rattle can, not done anything that big and don't fancy the sanding I'll have to do, got enough to do on my airfix valiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antb Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Fair enough mate. Ive been looking at aftermarket decals, there's loads as others have pointed out, I'm sure you will find something. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalX Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) the ``Texas Raiders`` decals are in 1/72 as well.........LOL i've been thinking a lot about this scale thing, the 1/48 Revell looks wrong due to a lack of molded surface detail, it's huge size reveals this !!!!!..................the 1/72 might be better. ok it looks like the Revell B17F ``Shamrock Special`` and the B17G ``Nine O Nine``.........but i expect i'll go onto Ebay and see too many others and get confused...........spoilt for choice LOL Edited February 2, 2017 by MalX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Gone through some of the kitsworld sets, and I have found an OD B-17G-65, wish I'd looked before I went t my LHS and spent 17 pounds on a p51, could have spent 28 pounds on a b-17...... edit also found an OD G-95 Edited February 2, 2017 by PhantomBigStu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalX Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said: Gone through some of the kitsworld sets, and I have found an OD B-17G-65, wish I'd looked before I went t my LHS and spent 17 pounds on a p51, could have spent 28 pounds on a b-17...... edit also found an OD G-95 YES...........i'd advise everyone to look on ebay before you buy a B17 / decals whatever, because they have stuff there that i never even knew existed. they have B17Bs................B17Cs............loads of different RAF versions etc, but these are mainly in 1/72, you dont see anywhere near as much in 1/48........................1/72 is the way to go i think as for the expense i'm too scared to even think what i've spent recently. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lifelike-Decals-Boeing-B-17-Flying-Fortress-Pt-1-1-72-decals-/252730623264?hash=item3ad7eb4520:g:NMAAAOSw14xWQd0E that's a very good sheet, they have Tondalayo in black plus ``a bit o lace`` . http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191901998041 That is the famous ``ye olde pub``, plus they also have ``betty boop, the pistol packin mama`` i'm now totally confused, this always happens to me Edited February 2, 2017 by MalX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Why buy it on ebay from the US when it's much cheaper to get it from Hannants, first port of call for any decal search if you are in the UK. Free postage too. https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/KW72054 Rarely makes sense to buy an EU-manufactured product like Kits World decals from a source on the other side of the world. Sending goods on 7,000 mile round trips isn't cheap. Edited February 2, 2017 by Work In Progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalX Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 ok i'll get it all from Hannants, i'm after three Fortresses........i'll start a new thread soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalX Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 oh dear............. the Revell B17G doesn't have the staggered waste gun, so i cant make ``Texas Raiders`` unless i move it of course, it'll also have to moved for ``Yankee Lady`` as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalX Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 ok that's the Revell B17F and G ordered, plus a couple of decal sheets, that'll keep me occupied for some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Here is perhaps altarnate option https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2015/12/21/kampfgruppe-200-part-i/ All markings overpainted, so no decals at all... J-W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalX Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 4 hours ago, JWM said: Here is perhaps altarnate option https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2015/12/21/kampfgruppe-200-part-i/ All markings overpainted, so no decals at all... J-W what a German B17.............no i dont think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, MalX said: what a German B17.............no i dont think so I hoped so JWM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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