lifeofbrian Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I have a 1/16 Panzer IV F2 which I need to paint, I have Tamiya XF-63 German Grey, is this the right paint for an F2? I would like to paint a Tiger 1 in the same paint, is this realistic?. Also I need an opinion on some decals for the F2, are they correct for a realistic version. I'm no rivet counter but I'd hate to have every tanker look at it and think "shame the markings are wrong". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 The first set appear to be for an Ausf H, a later variant, no idea about the second.....Probably better to choose the tank you want to model and then source decals to suit (especially working in this monster scale). PM me if you need any help with reference materiel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeofbrian Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 I know the top decals say H version, but would each model get specific style markings? Would an F2/G from the same Reg/Div have the same markings? 14 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: The first set appear to be for an Ausf H, a later variant, no idea about the second.....Probably better to choose the tank you want to model and then source decals to suit (especially working in this monster scale). PM me if you need any help with reference materiel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I don't even know if that division was ever issued with F2s without checking (it's an uncommon variant) and even the unit marking styles changed over the course of time.....So I very much doubt it TBH. Happy to help you track down an interesting F2 (I'm doing a couple from 6 Pz. during Operation Winter Storm in 1/72) and will do my best to point you toward suitable deacls, TBH in that scale masking and spraying might be just as easy (I believe there may be pre-cut templates out there). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeofbrian Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 Yeah, you can get masks from Germany. The F2 is practically the same as the G isn't it? The only problem is, most decals and masks seem to be for desert paint and I want either Panzer Grey or camo. 1 minute ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: I don't even know if that division was ever issued with F2s without checking (it's an uncommon variant) and even the unit marking styles changed over the course of time.....So I very much doubt it TBH. Happy to help you track down an interesting F2 (I'm doing a couple from 6 Pz. during Operation Winter Storm in 1/72) and will do my best to point you toward suitable deacls, TBH in that scale masking and spraying might be just as easy (I believe there may be pre-cut templates out there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Confused myself there, I've got so many ongoing builds I lose track of them all.....My F2 are actually from Grossdeutschland, not 6 Pz.! They are camouflaged in dunkelgelb (or possibly gelbbraun) over panzergrau: Several other examples (including camo) here: http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/Panzer_IV.php 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeofbrian Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) What is that thing under the turret? Is it for moving the antenna? It's about the only accessory I've never seen in 1/16. 32 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Confused myself there, I've got so many ongoing builds I lose track of them, my F2 are actually from Grossdeutschland, not 6 Pz.! They are camouflaged in dunkelgelb over panzergrau: Edited January 30, 2017 by lifeofbrian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Yup and it shouldn't be there. I was trying to find an illustrative image of my GD PZ.IV Ausf F2s and that was the best I could come up with in a hurry.....Never trust a profile for more than inspiration IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeofbrian Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) It shouldn't be there? Did they not have them? War thunder is lying to me. 20 minutes ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Yup and it shouldn't be there. I was trying to find an illustrative image of my GD PZ.IV Ausf F2s and that was the best I could come up with in a hurry.....Never trust a profile for more than inspiration IMHO. Edited January 30, 2017 by lifeofbrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 They're normally only seen on the short barreled (L/24) variants (Ausf A to Ausf F).....I'd never noticed one on a F2, but having checked: This is definitely the exception rather than the rule.....As I said, I'd never noticed one before. PS - Judging by the Stuart in the background this is probably a DAK vehicle, they had some very odd stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeofbrian Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 This was the one I liked from that site: I found the decals for your one I think. 4 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: Confused myself there, I've got so many ongoing builds I lose track of them all.....My F2 are actually from Grossdeutschland, not 6 Pz.! They are camouflaged in dunkelgelb (or possibly gelbbraun) over panzergrau: Several other examples (including camo) here: http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/Panzer_IV.php 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentG Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 7 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said: They're normally only seen on the short barreled (L/24) variants (Ausf A to Ausf F).....I'd never noticed one on a F2, but having checked: This is definitely the exception rather than the rule.....As I said, I'd never noticed one before. PS - Judging by the Stuart in the background this is probably a DAK vehicle, they had some very odd stuff. The appendage beneath the barrel was designed to deflect the radio antenna, if erected, as the turret traversed right. It was way more important on the Pz IV A-F(1) models with the short barrelled 75mm. If you see an F2 with the deflector, it was most likely an up gunned F(1) and just never removed. G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 That's what I assumed with the one in the picture.....Not sure if the gun's damaged and out of battery, but the mantlet and gun look odd to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentG Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 This is a captured tank I believe. There's an M3 and a Priest (I think) behind it. The gun could have been sabotaged by the crew before they abandoned her. The most common practise when time was limited was to drain the recuperator fluid and fire the gun. G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 That would do it and it perfectly matches what we see in the image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Not sure if it's any help but echelon do a set of decals for the panzer iv in 1/72 which has the F2 on. Could scan the instructions if they'd be of use? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentG Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 If you really want to have fun and get contest judges scratching their heads paint a tank in Tropen colors and put Russian front markings on it. Quite a few tanks earmarked for Africa were diverted to Russia late '42 and early '43. RAL 8020 Pz IV F1's with an overspray of RAL 7028 Dunkel Grau were seen. StuG III F8's in RAL 8020 camouflaged with Olivgrun and Rotbraun. The list is endless. I'm sort of devious that way. A good old Panzer IV in Dark Gray though is a wonderful thing. G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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