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The Airfix Valiant has been well covered here already but I'm planning to do something a bit different with the kit. Airfix give markings for the second prototype but missed some of the changes in detail from the production aircraft. The first prototype had very different intakes and engine configuration in addition to several more minor details such as airbrakes above and below the wings.

 

Photos from http://www.aviationphotocompany.com/   and   http://www.aviastar.org/

 

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The plan is to make new intake/engine sections, main undercarriage bays, main gear outer doors, intake vanes and decals for the serial numbers and fin flashes.

 

Steve

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First job is to remove the engine tunnels from the lower wing halves

 

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Followed by the jetpipe area from the upper wing halves

 

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On 30/01/2017 at 21:07, SovereignHobbies said:

This will be good to follow :)

 

On 30/01/2017 at 21:16, Norman said:

Bring it on !

 

Thanks for the support.

 

No going back now but the cider helps....

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The beginnings of the new engine section, getting the rib shapes to match the Airfix parts took a while. A couple of plastic card shims on the end of the tubes to get the spacing right despite measuring a couple of times before cutting them.

 

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Finally it fits! I didn't want to chop the spar out of the wing so there is a cutout in the ribs to fit over it. 

 

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Just need to do the other side now.

 

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I've made the framework for the other side and got them both skinned.  Started to get the new jetpipes in place and gaps filled.

 

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The main gear bays on the prototypes were different to the Airfix kit. The leading edges of the inboard doors are at right-angles to the fuselage.

 

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Not difficult to change the shape of the doors

 

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The main gear bays need a couple of simple changes to the corners as well as the change for the inboard door.

 

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Got the basic shapes done for the new engine sections. Lots of filler and sanding but they're getting there now. The slot fits over the kit wing spar to make the joint as strong as I can.

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It certainly is a bit different to most Valiants, but most of the work isn't too difficult.

 

Spent a lot of time refining the shapes although it doesn't look too different here. The tube I used to get the correct spacing between the inner and outer ribs have been removed so I can make the intake ducting.

 

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Not the sharpest photo I've ever taken!

 

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Cheers Mike, it will be very shiny! I managed to get away with it on my Bristol 188 despite it being mostly filler :party:

 

This is the kit engine fronts and some of the intake ducting heavily modified with a new splitter added. Needs tidying up a lot yet

 

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With the internal bracing now removed I can get access to the rear of the intakes to refine the shapes

 

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Nice and deep intake trunking with the location for the splitter to slide into

 

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The engine fronts and splitter in place for a test fit.

 

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From the front, I don't think much will be seen down there....

 

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The current state of play, still loads to do but hopefully you can see where I'm going with this!

 

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On 21/02/2017 at 00:09, Martian Hale said:

You ought to market this as a conversion it!

 

Martian

 

I am going to be making moulds from the new engine parts so let me know if you're interested.

 

A few simple changes to make to backdate the Airfix kit - remove all the vortex generators from the fin, reshape the fin tip and the small fairing under the rudder, add the trim tab actuators and change the lower line of the rudder. Most of these changes are needed for a B1 anyway.

 

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Remove the vortex generators from the tailplane;

 

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Cut the inner main gear doors at right angles;


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Remove the vortex generators, fuel dump pipes and reshape the wing tips;

 

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It's been a while since I've done much on this but I have now finished the new engine sections, undercarriage bays, intake trunking and inner main gear doors. The first half of the rtv moulds for the engines and the single part moulds for the other parts are seen here.

 

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The last batch of rtv I mixed up didn't cure fully so this was cleaned off and re-done with the next mix.

 

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Just about had enough rtv to get all the moulds made after having to waste this:rage:

Steve

 

 

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Thanks guys.

 

Not managed to get much done on this due to work getting in the way as usual and decorating to keep swmbo happy......

The replacement moulds cured properly and after leaving them for a couple of days to fully cure I got a couple of sets of resin out of them.

 

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No issues with the resin and only a couple of small bubbles to deal with. Due to the design of the intake moulds I did have a small part of the rubber get into the wrong position which left a small depression but that will easily fill later. If I cast any more of these I know what went wrong and can avoid it happening again - practice makes perfect but also uses up the resin!

 

Test fitting not showing any problems, there was always going to be some filling to do with the amount of plastic I am replacing with resin but this look ok.

 

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This shows the depression in the resin intake that needs filling - easy enough.

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Still a long way to go but it's definitely coming together now.

 

Steve

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Cheers John.

 

The next part that needs to be changed is the bomb aimer's blister under the nose as the prototype had a much smaller blister. This is the kit part;

 

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I found a resin blister in my spares box that gave a good starting point and after some hacking I got the required shape. It's just fixed onto some masking tape with a drop of superglue so I can check the size and shape.

 

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Here the flat circular window has been added and the shape refined a bit more.

 

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Next step will be to polish out the scratches and then make a mould so then I can vacform the blister.

 

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