canberra kid Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 4 hours ago, F4u said: Those wings are looking great John , she certainly has a large chord the UK Canberra's that I saw displaying at shows were quite agile always remember a display at Duxford of the Coventry based jet which was great keeping the aircraft within the airfield boundary and zoom climbing with a nice wing over could have rolled quite easily . Guy Thanks Guy, they are shaping up quite well now. The PR.9 was(is) a very spritely performer, the big wing and an overabundance of power, it can't fail to impress! and don't forget when you saw her she was limited to +3 and -1 G, so just imagine what she could do in her hay day! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 I think that's about it for the wings for now, I've done some more filling on the fuselage and I hope to get some work done on the sensor bay. John 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 I've marked out the position of the various camera/sensor windows, I'll rub down the filler and drill and shape the windows tomorrow. John 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 9, 2017 Author Share Posted April 9, 2017 I've opened up the windows, all went ok except the one for the IR line scanner, the plastic must have been very thin in this area as you can see in the red box, also the seam has split! luckily for me there is a frame to go around this window, but I still need to fix the split, but it could have been much worse! John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted April 9, 2017 Share Posted April 9, 2017 Wing and sensor holes coming along very smartly John. Aside from the IR scanner, what gear was looking out of the other three openings? Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, TheBaron said: Wing and sensor holes coming along very smartly John. Aside from the IR scanner, what gear was looking out of the other three openings? Tony Good question Tony, but not an easy one to answer, General Dynamics Fort Worth produced a number of pre-configured reconnaissance "bomb door's" with slightly diferant sensor fit, these were changed and upgraded as new kit became available. The configuration I've gone for is front to back; KA-1 vertical camera, KA-82A panoramic camera, KA-1 oblique camera, RS-10 scanner. In the nose 36" KA-1 oblique camera. John Edited April 10, 2017 by canberra kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Interesting. Thanks for that John. Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 The last of the major airframe mods to make the B into an E, so it was out with the Milliput! The first is the modified tail cone which was a leftover from the E's days as a Target Tug,(Tow Target) I'm not really sure why this mod was done but it was, so it has to be done. The next was another left over from the T.T. days and this was a much extended tail bumper, the purpose for this is known, it was to clear the two target banner tubes mounted on the lower rear fuselage. It's a shame all that lovely detail in the airbrake bay is fictitious as it looks really nice John 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 The old and now sadly long gone C-Scale white metal Patrica Lynn nose is by far the most accurate rendition of this distinctive feature, As good as it is the one I have is unfortunately not circular in profile, I lined it up on the top side and built up the lower side with Milliput to make good. This will need more fine tuning but it will help a lot with making things right. I will also drill out the front camera window. John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Watching...... for future reference. This all looks good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 1 hour ago, rob Lyttle said: Watching...... for future reference. This all looks good Good to have you along Rob John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I've been watching through my fingers, as I've begun planning a B-57 build for a family friend who served as a Canberra crew chief in the USAF. I know nothing of Canberras, and was in for quite a shock reading this thread, and your info in the SIG, John. Ignorance is bliss, but there's no going back now. Fantastic detail and scratch work so far, and very informative as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Stately handsome progress John, and as Cookie says - a veritable lesson. Tony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 7 hours ago, Cookenbacher said: I've been watching through my fingers, as I've begun planning a B-57 build for a family friend who served as a Canberra crew chief in the USAF. I know nothing of Canberras, and was in for quite a shock reading this thread, and your info in the SIG, John. Ignorance is bliss, but there's no going back now. Fantastic detail and scratch work so far, and very informative as well. Thanks Cookie, I'm glad you are finding it useful, if a little scary as I said early on, the Italeri kit out of the box looks a lot like a B.57, the thought behind this build was just to get one as accurate B.57 as I could in 1/72. I have and will no doubt build many more Italeri kits out of the box with no modifications at all. What we need is a new accurate kit. Which B.57 model did your friend work on? 1 hour ago, TheBaron said: Stately handsome progress John, and as Cookie says - a veritable lesson. Tony Thanks Tony! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Just as an aside, I came across this picture the other evening Is that like, " Probably the Best Aeroplanes in the World..." ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, rob Lyttle said: Just as an aside, I came across this picture the other evening Is that like, " Probably the Best Aeroplanes in the World..." ? Nice Rob, but "Probably" the best? No doubt I'd say! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) That's about it now for the fuselage, I'll now try to sort out the cockpit, more fun to came! John Edited April 15, 2017 by canberra kid added more photos 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 One thing from the Italeri kit that would be useful for a B/RB.57E build is the rear instrument panel, which although not an available build option in the kit is that of a B.57E, but before we get too excited at the prospect of being able to use a bit of the Italeri kit, it would appear the Patrica Lynn RB.57E's were retro fitted with the standard B.57B navigators panel! Thankfully, the Czech Master set has this part in the cockpit set. The cockpit tub in the kit is ok if a bit simple, the CM replacement is as you would hope, much better with a very good level of detail, one thing they both have in common is the rear cockpit, they both have boxed in side wall's this is not the case on the real aircraft as the fuselage sides form the outer wall of the rear cockpit. The area marked in red need removing, this applies to all B.57's After that was done the next small mod and the only thing I know of on the Patty Lynn E's was a small TV monitor in the rear cockpit for the GIB to watch live images from the sensors John 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Coming together nicely Never realised there was so much difference between English Electrics finest and its Martin cousin! Roger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Lyttle Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Brace yourself Hamden , I expect there's more to come .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Phew, the information continues to arrive at pace, thanks John. My friend served with the 4677th Defense Systems Evaluation Squadron, testing the abilities of various ADC Fighter Interceptor Squadrons. Thus, he speaks fondly of the F-106 as well, and so I'm thinking of building my old Hasegawa Delta Dart kit alongside. They mainly flew B-57B's and E's (during web searches they are sometimes referred to as EB-57's, but he never does, but he confirms that they were mostly packed with electronic equipment rather than bombs). He said that they also flew 'A' models simply because the squadron commander was fond of them. All three models were on hand simultaneously. I have the Italeri B-57G boxing, figuring it would have the most parts and therefore the most flexibility - the 'B' model probably being the easiest to obtain. Sorry for the thread drift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 6 hours ago, Hamden said: Coming together nicely Never realised there was so much difference between English Electrics finest and its Martin cousin! Roger Very much so Roger, apart from a superficial resemblance between the B.57A and the Canberra B.2 they are very diferant animals under and indeed including the skin. John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 3 hours ago, rob Lyttle said: Brace yourself Hamden , I expect there's more to come .... Oh yes! 2 hours ago, Cookenbacher said: Phew, the information continues to arrive at pace, thanks John. My friend served with the 4677th Defense Systems Evaluation Squadron, testing the abilities of various ADC Fighter Interceptor Squadrons. Thus, he speaks fondly of the F-106 as well, and so I'm thinking of building my old Hasegawa Delta Dart kit alongside. They mainly flew B-57B's and E's (during web searches they are sometimes referred to as EB-57's, but he never does, but he confirms that they were mostly packed with electronic equipment rather than bombs). He said that they also flew 'A' models simply because the squadron commander was fond of them. All three models were on hand simultaneously. I have the Italeri B-57G boxing, figuring it would have the most parts and therefore the most flexibility - the 'B' model probably being the easiest to obtain. Sorry for the thread drift. No problems Cookie, I did ask! The official designation was indeed EB.57A, B or E but it doesn't matter really. With the kit you have an EB.57B would be the easiest option, you won't need to modify the tail cone if you do that and you can use the twin generators for the G too. Do you know which year he was working on the Canberra? This could affect the type of seat fitted. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 15, 2017 Author Share Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) Cookie this is my unmodified Italeri B.57 as an EB.57B And 1/48 Airfix B.2 very modified as an EB.57A John Edited April 15, 2017 by canberra kid EB.57B 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Those are fantastic John, the 'B' even looks to be from the 4677th. Thanks for posting them. I'll find out what years he served, I'm guessing it was very late sixties until the early seventies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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