(ex)Sgtrafman Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Hi everyone After completing my Typhoon and the false restart on my Halifax (which has been consigned to the draw of oblivion for now ) I wanted a 4 engined WW2 RAF bomber in my collection. So out came the B17. I asked my wife if I could get some bits and pieces from Hannants to give it a boost and her answer was and I quote "Of cause you can, so you want to pimp out another plane eh" Too much Fast N Loud I think, Bless her! So last night I spent 30 minutes on the Hannants site and I ordered some bits and bobs which should be here shortly. I want to finish the plane as a MKIII which I know didn't have the chin turret does anybody know if there is a conversion for the Airfix kit? The markings I will use are either B-17 Mk.III 'Give it to Uncle' 214 RCM Unit 100 Group or B-17 Mk.III 'Keflavic Cutie' (FA712, AD-C) 251 Met Sqn, Reykjavik RAF Coastal Command, late 1944, both on the Kitsworld (KW172134) sheet. Laters Iain 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lime Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Iain, FA172 Keflavic Cutie can't be used as it is an earlier B-17, would need to check if it is a Mk.II or Mk.IIa as I can't remember off the top of my head (Mk.IIa = B-17E and Mk.II = B-17F, go figure!). You'd also need to check which sub-variant of B-17G 'Uncle' was, as this will determine whether the Airfix kit is suitable. There were several changes introduced during B-17G production construction, including tail turrets, waist gun positions and various others. Two books I'd recommend for RAF B-17 use, Robert Stitt's tome which pretty much covers everything you need to know about their use within Coastal Command and Martin Streetley's 'The Aircraft of 100 Group' which includes a wealth of detail on RCM Fortress IIIs. If no-one else chimes in with anything, drop me a PM with any questions and I'll have look through those books for you and see if I can answer them for you. Regards, Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'm getting me in here. A B-17 is always good to watch at, although I cannot comment anything on that specific plane. Photos are always the best reference, It guess. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'm assuming you don't want to wait for this? http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2017/boeing-fortress-mk-iii-1-72.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 7 hours ago, Harry Lime said: Iain, FA172 Keflavic Cutie can't be used as it is an earlier B-17, would need to check if it is a Mk.II or Mk.IIa as I can't remember off the top of my head (Mk.IIa = B-17E and Mk.II = B-17F, go figure!). You'd also need to check which sub-variant of B-17G 'Uncle' was, as this will determine whether the Airfix kit is suitable. There were several changes introduced during B-17G production construction, including tail turrets, waist gun positions and various others. Two books I'd recommend for RAF B-17 use, Robert Stitt's tome which pretty much covers everything you need to know about their use within Coastal Command and Martin Streetley's 'The Aircraft of 100 Group' which includes a wealth of detail on RCM Fortress IIIs. If no-one else chimes in with anything, drop me a PM with any questions and I'll have look through those books for you and see if I can answer them for you. Regards, Mark. Hi Mark Thanks fort the input mate. You've made up my mind on which B17 I'll finish the model as. I'm going to opt for a 214 Sqn machine utilising whats in the B17G box, I can't justify spending another 30 quid or so on another kit, my wife is very tolerant of my hobby but not that tolerant! I'll keep your offer of information in mind, thanks 7 hours ago, bbudde said: I'm getting me in here. A B-17 is always good to watch at, although I cannot comment anything on that specific plane. Photos are always the best reference, It guess. Cheers Cheers mate! 7 hours ago, IanC said: I'm assuming you don't want to wait for this? http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2017/boeing-fortress-mk-iii-1-72.html I couldn't justify buying it, my wife would go ballistic, although shes happy for me to buy aftermarket for a kit I already have. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Hi everyone I'm going to build my B17 with what comes in the box... ...To represent a 214 Sqn machine. I'm not a rivet counter so as long as she looks something like a RAF B17 MKIII I'll be very happy. Cheers Iain 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbudde Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Oh it usually only depends on some modeling skills and your paint job. Not on the quality of the model, if its shape is just correct. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Best of luck, Iain! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lime Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Iain, 'Take It Easy' is perfect for the Airfix kit, it's one of the decal options in the upcoming Mk.III release of this kit. Have a look at Tony O'Toole's recent build for a lot of info and tips regarding this particular aircraft and the Airfix kit itself. Look forward to seeing your build progressing! Regards, Mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Val said: Best of luck, Iain! Cheers mate! 4 hours ago, Harry Lime said: Iain, 'Take It Easy' is perfect for the Airfix kit, it's one of the decal options in the upcoming Mk.III release of this kit. Have a look at Tony O'Toole's recent build for a lot of info and tips regarding this particular aircraft and the Airfix kit itself. Look forward to seeing your build progressing! Regards, Mark. Hey Mark Thanks for your guidance mate. I'll check out the Tony O'Toole build. Laters Iain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Dont worry about 'rivet counters', build it as you see fit, thats what really matters. Good luck, I shall be looking in on this for sure. Ian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antb Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Hi Iain, looking forward to seeing how you do deal with the kit and whether you have similar experiences as myself with it. I'm going to follow along if you don't mind? Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 On 30/01/2017 at 6:37 PM, Antb said: Hi Iain, looking forward to seeing how you do deal with the kit and whether you have similar experiences as myself with it. I'm going to follow along if you don't mind? Cheers Be my guest mate. ive not done a huge amount at the moment, I've been doing more research than anything else - oh those interior colours! Hopefully I should have a parcel from hannants tomorrow with a few Eduard goodies so I may have some pictures to post? Until then it's good night from me and it's good night from him. Iain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Hi everyone I have a small update for you. The build so far has gone relatively easily with no major problems with the kit. I've only completed the cockpit area, bomb bay, radio compartment and rear of the bomber but as a say its gone ok. The only problem I encountered was with the Eduard PE for the cockpit, the main instrument panel once fitted fowled with the throttle pedestal so I took it off and replaced it with the kits decal and the instructions have some of the main kit parts upside down? For the interior paint colours I did a lot of research this site a few other forums and the internet and I concluded that the main colours are aluminium for the majority of the interior with the cockpit being the only painted area which I painted Bronze green and black. Oh and I painted the table in the radio compartment to try and simulate wood... I want to display her with the bomb bay doors open to let in more light so I'm going to scratch a Jostle transmitter just to fill the gap.. Well that's that. Cheers Iain 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antb Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Hi Iain looks great so far. The PE really makes the cockpit look the business. Are you adding the bombs to the rack or rack or leaving them out? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Antb said: Hi Iain looks great so far. The PE really makes the cockpit look the business. Are you adding the bombs to the rack or rack or leaving them out? Cheers Hey Ant no I'm not gonna add the bombs. I'll put the jostle txer in the port side of the bomb bay but leave the rest empty. cheers iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Love seeing another B-17 going together. That cockpit is looking good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antb Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 14 hours ago, (ex)Sgtrafman said: Hey Ant no I'm not gonna add the bombs. I'll put the jostle txer in the port side of the bomb bay but leave the rest empty. cheers iain I didn't add mine in either after my issue getting them to fit. Lookimg forward to seeing the rest of the build as it unfolds mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Hi everyone Just a quick one. I've changed the interior colours of the 17 and added the Jostle transmitter to the bombay.. Gotta dash taking the boy flying from Newquay this morning.. and the Jostle txer.. Catch you all later Iain 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Looking really good - the Jostle transmitter really looks the part. And you're quite right regarding interior colours. The only painted area in the B-17 was the flightdeck (bronze green for exposed metal areas and olive green padding for the sidewalls) with all other areas being left in natural metal. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) This is coming along really well, love the Jostle too,...... looking forward to following the rest of your build, Having recently built a model of the very same aircraft, I`m sure you`ll love it as the quality is excellent. Cheers Tony Edited February 18, 2017 by tonyot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 2 hours ago, tomprobert said: Looking really good - the Jostle transmitter really looks the part. And you're quite right regarding interior colours. The only painted area in the B-17 was the flightdeck (bronze green for exposed metal areas and olive green padding for the sidewalls) with all other areas being left in natural metal. Tom Hey Tom Thanks mate. the interior colours can be quite a conundrum. I'll be leaving everything else in the fuselage natural metal (except the ammo boxes) and maybe do a little weathering (but not too much) great work on you 1/32 Shackleton BTW. 2 hours ago, tonyot said: This is coming along really well, love the Jostle too,...... looking forward to following the rest of your build, Having recently built a model of the very same aircraft, I`m sure you`ll love it as the quality is excellent. Cheers Tony Hi Tony Thanks mate the Jostle txer is just an old 1/48 scale bomb cut down with a couple of blanks added either end nothing to clever. TBH it was your build using this very kit that got me interested in building a Mk III and so far it has been a rather nice experience. I just wish I had more time on my hands to enable me to really get on with it. My plan for the weekend is to get the fuselage halves together at the very least. Cheers all Iain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 Hi everyone, I trust you evening is going well? I'm nearly at point where I can button up the fuselage on the B17... ...Its been an enjoyable build so far. Over the next few days I'll concentrate on all the large components so I can carry on with the more interesting bits and pieces. Cheers all Iain 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 That looks excellent, very much enjoying this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(ex)Sgtrafman Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Hi everyone Just a real small update for you (its not really an update its just to show that I am still about ) Like I said the post is just to show that I am still about. The Airfix B17 BTW is a great kit, goes together well and it sure looks like a B17. I still have some bits and pieces to add to the fuselage to make look like a MK III but thats for another time. Cheers Iain 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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