Pappy Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) G'day people, I cracked the bags on this one a few days ago, The story so far, Holes drilled out for the sticky-out bits Filling in the sticky-in bits I used some CA and accelerator. After about 20mins sanding these ejector pin marks were sorted. Note that the blanking plug for the aft right cabin window has been fitted as well. The first bits of PE have been applied Dry fitting has not turned up any issues so far, cheers, Pappy Edited January 29, 2017 by Pappy 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Hi Pappy, I have one of these on the go with the same PE. The fit of the kit itself is excellent - you'll probably find you need to fettle the fit of the RHS pilot's seat though, the protruding PE interferes with it somewhat (more noticable on the HAR.3 but still caused a minor issue on the HC.4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders154 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I love this kit counted up this and the Mk3 kits I have and found I had 7 togeather with 5 Revell so you could say I like seakings.I have never used PE on this kit so am looking forward to how you get on. Rodders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 42 minutes ago, Ragtag said: Hi Pappy, I have one of these on the go with the same PE. The fit of the kit itself is excellent - you'll probably find you need to fettle the fit of the RHS pilot's seat though, the protruding PE interferes with it somewhat (more noticable on the HAR.3 but still caused a minor issue on the HC.4) G'day Ragtag, Thanks for the heads up. The cable loom PE detail sits proud and fouls the rear of the angled seat frame.I already twigged to the issue (that is one reason why the pilots seat frame is not yet fitted), I ended up cutting a notch into the base of the angled seat frame as well as thinning the base of the 'tongue' portion that slips into the slot in front of the bulkhead. 4 minutes ago, Rodders154 said: I love this kit counted up this and the Mk3 kits I have and found I had 7 togeather with 5 Revell so you could say I like seakings.I have never used PE on this kit so am looking forward to how you get on. Rodders G'day Rodders, I have a couple of the Revell Sea Kings in my stash, so I know where you are coming from. The PE seems to be behaving so far, cheers, Pappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'd advise fitting the frame and seat together for the RHS pilot as the box & panel next to the cable loom also fouls the headrest of the seat - you might find that you get the frame in the right place then the seat won't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossofiron1971 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Lovely work sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted January 30, 2017 Author Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) On 29/01/2017 at 8:06 PM, Ragtag said: I'd advise fitting the frame and seat together for the RHS pilot as the box & panel next to the cable loom also fouls the headrest of the seat - you might find that you get the frame in the right place then the seat won't fit. Thanks. My test fitting indicates it is a tight fit, but it fits On 29/01/2017 at 9:56 PM, Crossofiron1971 said: Lovely work sir! Cheers, G'day people, A little further along. The cabin and cockpit got a splash of paint The drivers seats added As Ragtag mentionioned, the PE details added to the cockpit bulkhead alter the fit of the pilot's seat support frame, but with some modification it fits - just. Airfix have captured the shape of the armored seats well, however they are missing the seat survival packs. I used some scrap plastic sanded to shape to represent the survival packs. cheers, Pappy Edited January 30, 2017 by Pappy 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Coming along nicely Pappy - I didn't bother with PSPs for my HC.4 but I have made some for my HU.5. The black looks rather good - what shade is it? Also if you don't mind sharing I'm curious how you did the wearing of the non-slip in the cabin? Very effective yet also subtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefy Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Impressive build and paint job so far. Can't wait to see the rest of the build and the finished results. I think seeing the progress so far it will be fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Oh well, time to sell my 2 HC.4s But seriously Pappy, nice start. Which PE set are you using? Detail looks great. Also how did you get the walkway effect in the main cabin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Great start! Martian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ragtag said: Coming along nicely Pappy - I didn't bother with PSPs for my HC.4 but I have made some for my HU.5. The black looks rather good - what shade is it? Also if you don't mind sharing I'm curious how you did the wearing of the non-slip in the cabin? Very effective yet also subtle I thought that the seat pans just looked too empty without the PSPs. I just used some matt black and dry brushed it with some light grey. I painted on some small scratches here and there with dark grey (silver was too bright) and then gave a light dusting with a light brown pastel applied with a soft brush 9 hours ago, Beefy said: Impressive build and paint job so far. Can't wait to see the rest of the build and the finished results. I think seeing the progress so far it will be fantastic. Thanks Beefy 7 hours ago, TrojanThunder said: Oh well, time to sell my 2 HC.4s But seriously Pappy, nice start. Which PE set are you using? Detail looks great. Also how did you get the walkway effect in the main cabin? see above 7 hours ago, Martian Hale said: Great start! Martian cheers Martian, G'day people, More PE antics. First up, the overhead panel Next the main instrument panel I am not a fan of the pre-painted PE normally, but in this scale it really does make a massive difference. Although the kit decals are very nicely printed, I think they look a little too garish in this scale. The printed PE looks busy but also muted. The cabin bulkhead details were given an oil wash and subtle drybrush followed by some light chipping using a fine paintbrush Most of the cabin floor will not be readily visible even with the doors open so i did not go nuts with the weathering here I also started assembling some of the external sub assemblies. The dust filter is completely devoid of any surface detail. Airfix provide some decals to represent the external details which is a bit disappointing given how nice the rest of the detail is. Fortunately I had some PE to hand to remedy the problem, I also opened the outlets on either side as per my refs cheers, Pappy Edited January 31, 2017 by Pappy 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Alpha Yankee Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Thanks, half of my questions answered re: walkway paint, so which PE set are you using again? Eduard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Ooooh! Pappy good start to the build with all that PE detail. I've two of these in the stash, esxactly when I 'll get arounfd to them is another matter. Great painting too, I'll be following your build. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Its a bit spooky how your builds seem to match those I have slated for the not so distant future. Have you been at my stash again? Martian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Looking very nice Pappy! I've not long finished the same build with the same pe! It's a lovely kit just don't torture yourself with the striped one like I did!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, heloman1 said: Ooooh! Pappy good start to the build with all that PE detail. I've two of these in the stash, esxactly when I 'll get arounfd to them is another matter. Great painting too, I'll be following your build. Colin Welcome aboard Colin 10 hours ago, Martian Hale said: Its a bit spooky how your builds seem to match those I have slated for the not so distant future. Have you been at my stash again? Martian Well they say that great minds think alike (but idiots never differ) 9 hours ago, wasacop said: Looking very nice Pappy! I've not long finished the same build with the same pe! It's a lovely kit just don't torture yourself with the striped one like I did!! That did turn out very nice, congrats G'day people, The addition of the cabin seating just about completes the interior Airfix have very thoughtfully provided a cabin roof to blank off the cavity that is very visible with the cabin doors open. I added a small PE grille to this before it was installed into the right fuselage as the access would be a lot more difficult once the fuselage halves were closed More PE goodness followed in the form of the left cabin entry door which completely replaces (and outclasses!) the kit part The kit is provided with both early and later ECM/ESM countermeasure fits for the nose on part F12.. The lower pair of boxes are moulded in place and the larger boxes are designed to slip over these. I want to backdate my bird and although the instructions make no mention of these earlier boxes, they are are included as parts F22 and F23. I used these items in lieu of parts F17 and F18. I guess this means that Airfix may release another version of the HC.4 at some point down the track. Whilst checking the references, I noticed that I also need to cut off a small square that is molded onto part F12 which required the resulting hole to be filled. Of course it was at this point that I noticed that two countermeasures boxes (F31,F32) that I had previously fitted to the lower fuselage were of a later type and would also require removal! Always check your references! cheers, Pappy Edited February 1, 2017 by Pappy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave22014 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Nicely done Pappy, I shall be making notes for when I build mine (and despite wasacop's advice I shall go for the white stripes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasacop Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Bigdave22014 said: Nicely done Pappy, I shall be making notes for when I build mine (and despite wasacop's advice I shall go for the white stripes Go for it Bigdave! I must admit i was expecting a lot of grief with the masking of the stripes, but it wasn't that bad once i'd got a plan etc sorted. Pappy I would fill the holes you've drilled under the main door as the replacement Commando Step has nothing to locate into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Hi Pappy, before you go much further, should not the lap straps on the seats be blue??? I stand to be corrected. good work non the less. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragtag Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, heloman1 said: Hi Pappy, before you go much further, should not the lap straps on the seats be blue??? I stand to be corrected. good work non the less. Colin Hi Colin, images I've found of the modern HC.4 interior show the belts to be black - the material looks v. similar to a car seatbelt. Images from the HC.4 earlier in its life seem to show belts a darker blue than the seats. I decided on mine that they won't visible enough to be worth the bother as I plan to have a few marines exiting the aircraft - also couldn't get the PE to look realistic anyway. Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ragtag said: Hi Colin, images I've found of the modern HC.4 interior show the belts to be black - the material looks v. similar to a car seatbelt. Images from the HC.4 earlier in its life seem to show belts a darker blue than the seats. I decided on mine that they won't visible enough to be worth the bother as I plan to have a few marines exiting the aircraft - also couldn't get the PE to look realistic anyway. Stu G'day Colin, The belts are actually printed in blue, but it is a light blue/grey shade which my lights have probably washed out. Stu is correct about the drivers seats but as for the cabin, I think that these should also be black. Like Stu, I decided that this was a minor error that I could live with given that most of the cabin belts would not not be clearly visible , I did not want to repaint a gazillion lap belts and anyway there are many other errors present in the cabin. For example, the aft bulkhead is represented as a flat plate both by the kit and the PE overlay. In reality there is some grey sound proofing material that sits over the top giving a wrinkled appearance and it appears to project forwards a little more. I am sure that when you build you kits you will doubtless correct these, but I have chosen to ignore them in preference to expediency, cheers, Pappy Edited February 1, 2017 by Pappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) G'day people, I have assembled the tail unit. The HC.4 has the ability to fold the tail, so this assembly is supplied as a separate unit. Airfix includes two plugs to allow the tail unit to be depicted in either the extended or folded configuration. I am choosing the folded configuration as it looks a lot more interesting plus it will save on space The tail unit has several mesh areas to allow cooling air to reach the various tail rotor gearboxes. Airfix depict these mesh portions as shallow recessed areas but did not replicate any of the mesh. I opened the recessed portions in preparation of replacement PE panels. The plastic plug depicting a folded tail fits well and it is quite robust, however it lacks detail More grist for the mill, cheers, Pappy Edited February 2, 2017 by Pappy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Hi Pappy, I'm happy with the belts if you are, nuff said. Re the rear bulkhead, it's most probably similar to the Wesex, where there is a fabric curtail pop fastened over the opening to the tail come for maintenanvce purposes. So yes wrinkled would be more in keeping. I do like th ePE fold down door, looks very scale. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, heloman1 said: Hi Pappy, I'm happy with the belts if you are, nuff said. Re the rear bulkhead, it's most probably similar to the Wesex, where there is a fabric curtail pop fastened over the opening to the tail come for maintenanvce purposes. So yes wrinkled would be more in keeping. I do like th ePE fold down door, looks very scale. Colin G'day Colin, I am by no means an expert on HC.4's, I just paint what i see. In this case, I was happy enough with the belts. I actually have the belts all slightly different from set to seat, with a few hanging over the edges here and there, p.s I have since removed that errant hair! I figured if I needed to touch them up after folding I may make a mess of it so I went with the pre-painted colours. Apart from a few seats near the doors, most of the belts cannot be seen very well. The cabin sound proofing on the HC.4's is quite smooth, not at all like the typical wrinkly sagging stuff normally seen on heli's, but the aft bulkhead is the exception, cheers, Pappy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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