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De Havilland Venom prototype colour scheme and other questions


John R

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Please can anybody tell me the colour scheme of the Venom prototype?

You ask one question and suddenly others appear. Did the prototype have wing tanks when it first flew and if not what did the wingtips look like, rounded off or squared?

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The first two Venoms, VV612 and VV613, were both taken from the FB.5 production line.  VV612 ff 2-9-49 and VV613 23-7-50.  This is what Roger Lindsay had to say regarding tip tanks in his monograph on the type published in 1974.  No photographs of either prototype appear in the monograph.  

 

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HTH

 

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Don't know if this helps or not, but during it's appearance at the 1949 Farnborough show, VV612 did not have the tip tanks fitted for flight but did while on static display, this was only 4 days after it's first flight.  It also had distinctive under boom tail bumpers fitted.

The lack of tanks may have been to enable a better flying routine (Derry flying!), but it was usual for the aircraft to be displayed with tanks and stores to show off their capability.

Their are a few shots of '612 without tanks and as many with, so I guess you have the option to fit or not, but don't know the fit at first flight.

Don't forget that '612 also went on to be the reheated Ghost test airframe.

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I found a picture of it fitted with these (link only as it is copyright). They looked more like fins. Interestingly the caption says it was when it it was fitted with the afterburning Ghost but 71Chally says it had them at Farnborough, 4 days after its first flight.

https://www.yooniqimages.com/images/detail/216315114/Editorial/first-prototype-de-havilland-venom-vv612-after-the-fitting

Photo also shows it with wing fences, which it did not start with, so maybe it's the following year at Farnborough.

A few things that I found in my trawl net

It did not start with the extentions on the tailplane, wing fences or the extentions to the ailerons.

 

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Hi John, the original tail bumpers were much smaller, like the production aircraft.  I had forgotten that these were also on Vampires.

The taller bumpers were fitted when the reheated Ghost was fitted, same style as the reheated Vampire.

 

BTW I tend to use the 'Flight' archive as references, as you know when the pictures were taken,

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1949/1949 - 1620.html

There are two images there, one of VV612 in the air, I can see those mass balances there, and another one of it on the ground.

 

An early shot here,

http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac6/D.H.112 Venom FB.1.html

 

And a shot of '612 in it's reheated Ghost fit in the 1952,

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0347/7793/products/VV612_De_Havilland_Venom_Mk.1_RAF_Farnborough_1952_1024x1024.jpg?v=1487346207

 

This is VV613, but nice under shot,

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1951/1951 - 0685.html?search=venom

 

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