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beetcleaner    2

I see from a review on Flory Models Youtube channel that Future Floor Polish can now be bought which acts like the old stuff. A link on Britmodeller leads you to Amazon where it costs £9.98 but when you go to checkout the delivery costs push it up to £17.02

 

Is this because its being shipped in from the USA? Just wondered if there is a UK supplier who doesnt charge such hefty postage. Anybody used this stuff?

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Black Knight    3,601

The delivery charge probably goes up as this has to be carried by courier now. Post office regulations forbid it in Royal Mail post.

There are other products which are the same as Future/Klear, do the same job and are far cheaper.

I use 'Astonish Wood Floor Polish' - 99p/£1 for 750ml at most Home Bargain shops

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Black Knight    3,601

I usually just brush it on, with a very wide flat brush.

I have spayed it, but just couldn't be bothered to do that much anymore.

To clean the airbrush; do it immediately after use, first with plain water then either an alcohol or something with ammonia in it. Some window cleaners have ammonia in them, and water again.Or just do the alcohol/ammonia clean

In both cases make sure your model is warm and so is the room air where you are working.

Too cold and the varnish might dry matt, too cold and damp it might dry matt and opaque.

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Mike    10,668

A cheaper option is new Gauzy from AK Interactive.  It is a brilliant clear coat and really easy to spray or brush.  Its one achilles heel is that it does not sand well.  Klear sands well once dry, but Gauzy lifts and shreds when you sand it back, so it's no use for hiding decal carrier film by applying coats over the decals and sanding it back.  I still use it a lot, but switch back to my limited stocks of Klear when I'm hiding decals :)

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johnd    413
3 hours ago, Black Knight said:

 

I use 'Astonish Wood Floor Polish' - 99p/£1 for 750ml at most Home Bargain shops

 

 

Tangerine and Cinnamon or Jasmine and Wild Berry?

 

John.

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cruiserguy    94

Beetcleaner,

 

I guess any acrylic varnish that dries clear would OK to use. I have read some use one of the Lakeland products - can't remember what one though. Another and perhaps safer and less expensive option is to use artist's acrylic gloss varnish from Winson and Newton or Liquitex. I use Winsor and Newton matt varnish to finish my models and it's great. It works out cheaper than most model varnishes too. There is every reason to think their gloss varnish would be just as good. Think about it, you wouldn't expect an artist to seal and finish his or her work with floor polish. Would you?

 

Sincerely,

 

Will.

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beetcleaner    2

Thankyou all for your helpful advice. Cruiserguy, can i ask what you use to thin the Windsor and Newton matt varnish with and what you use to clean the airbrush out with afterwards?

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cruiserguy    94

Beetcleaner

 

You don't need to use anything as it airbrushes well straight from the bottle. To clean, just use something like Ultimate, Lifecolor, or Vallejo airbrush cleaner. I prefer Ultimate, but the other two are just as good.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Will..

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Kallisti    4,378

Just go to Rymans - they'll have it in stock. No point spending silly money on it, its not magic fairy dust, its just a cheap sort of varnish!

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bootneck    2,071
On 12/01/2017 at 10:17 AM, Mike said:

A cheaper option is new Gauzy from AK Interactive. 

 

Do we have a UK supplier for buying Gauzy nowadays?

 

Mike

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Mike    10,668

Creative Models stock AK off the top of my head :)

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NickR    21
On 12 January 2017 at 9:58 AM, Black Knight said:

I usually just brush it on, with a very wide flat brush.

I have spayed it, but just couldn't be bothered to do that much anymore.

To clean the airbrush; do it immediately after use, first with plain water then either an alcohol or something with ammonia in it. Some window cleaners have ammonia in them, and water again.Or just do the alcohol/ammonia clean

In both cases make sure your model is warm and so is the room air where you are working.

Too cold and the varnish might dry matt, too cold and damp it might dry matt and opaque.

Forgive me hijacking your thread for my own issues beetcleaner, but when I have applied Klear with a brush previously I have lifted the paint (Tamiya) I am brushing over. Anyone any idea what I am doing wrong?

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Greenshirt    392

You may not be letting the Tamiya paint fully cure. I let it cure for at least 24 hours, sometimes as much as 72 hours. 

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speedbird    146

Why pay those prices when an excellent alternative to klear is readily available in the U.K.? It's called quick shine and it's available from Lakeland stores.. I've been using it for about three years and it's as good if not better than klear. I'm amazed that the modeling community don't seem to know about this stuff and still use the inferior " new formula" kier.. have a look at the link:

http://www.lakeland.co.uk/20286/Quick-Shine-Floor-Finish

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beetcleaner    2

Thankyou all for your very helpful advice. I had no idea there was such a choice! I'm going to try all of your suggestions and find the one that suits me best. 

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Jon Kunac-Tabinor    3,956
6 hours ago, speedbird said:

Why pay those prices when an excellent alternative to klear is readily available in the U.K.? It's called quick shine and it's available from Lakeland stores.. I've been using it for about three years and it's as good if not better than klear. I'm amazed that the modeling community don't seem to know about this stuff and still use the inferior " new formula" kier.. have a look at the link:

http://www.lakeland.co.uk/20286/Quick-Shine-Floor-Finish

As the original "discoverer" of this stuff,  I'll just say it's very very good. I also use it as a general thinner and drying extender for all my acrylics for brush painting ( its great with Tamiya).  I've used it with Tamiya, guns, Vallejo, Citadel, Aeromaster and reveal acrylics - all fine.

 

I keep a small squeezey bottle of on my desk and use it all the time. You can also use it to make washes too.

 

Cheers Jonners

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Steve Noble    147

£17 for a bottle of Klear!! Crikey that's way too expensive. I'd use one of the dedicated hobby clears instead, works out much cheaper and gives better results in my opinion..

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Timbo343    77

Sainsburys do the pledge floor polish for a couple of quid. I've found that brush laying a few coates with a buff inbetween each layer brings out a really great shine. I've also got a a polishing stick from flory models which is used to bring out the shine.

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