Tim Moff Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Im in with the Academy 1/48 F16C boxing. Plan is to use the Caracal 48-086 CAS Vipers decals (ordered yet to arrive). I understand the kit is a pain - I looked at the last STGB, it was built with my other decals of choice, the SuperScale 111FS 90th birthday Texas ANG. So it may change as I have paint for both. I have filler and sanding sticks! Have my Mustang to finish before I jet off to Uganda on Sunday, so may get to start or it may wait for a couple of weeks. Edited February 18, 2017 by Tim Moff 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Will be interesting to see this kit build up, like you say there are moans about it but the few I've seen finished looked good to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filler Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I'm with you Simon, it's not a bad kit at all. It's one of very few kits I've built and even I made a decent job of it. It's very close to the Hasegawa kit in construction. The one thing I think is quite well known about it and did catch me out is the join of the upper and lower wing halves. I found out the hard way and had to do some remedial work. I can't remember specifically the problem right now but I'll try and refresh my memory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 and welcome again with your second build, it's the first time we've seen an Academy F-16, so it'll be very interesting to follow! again good luck with the build, and I hope it's an enjoyable one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'm also interested to see how you get on with this one Tim. As you and rich say it gets a fair amount of bad press but I have seen some built up which look good and you can pick them up quite cheaply. Have a safe and uneventful trip to Uganda. Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) Well I'm back from Uganda, couple of days TOIL. Hopefully make a start this week. Decals arrived: Look great, but no instruction regards the wing walk stencils, what numbers are what! Will have to try to piece em together - anyone who has done them before feel free to explain! I have also started taking parts off the sprue, cleaning up, test fitting and prepping some areas from primer. There are going to be some fit issues with the wings, gaps at the fuselage join etc. Some fettling on the lower wing trying to get the upper wing root a lesser issue, will see how it goes. Same with the intake....looks fiddly and there will be a step to fill/sort. Luckily the big gun GAU-13/A, which was mounted in the GPU-5/A pod used is also in the kit, along with the Mavericks. The pod was used during the 91 Gulf war by an ANG but soon discarded. I am not sure if it was ever trialed/tested as part of the A16 experiment I am modelling? Should I put it on? Even the AIM9Ls will be green! some interesting articles/pics/references: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-f-16-gun-pod-that-tried-to-shoot-down-the-a-10-wart-1597577525 Looks like single Mavs only. anyone know the ejector unit name? I have a TER in the kit, probably will not add the lower part as I can only see 1c Mav on in the pics. 30MM gun GPU-5/A pod Was going to minimise the weathering, but this airframe is looking a bit dirty - although its the F16A Block 1from the early 80s. The Pave Penny is very similar to the HARM pod so I can nick a duplicated part out of the Hase kit I have where there are 2. A bit of filing and reshaping should do it. Pave Penny mounts for Israeli F16C HARM to compare Edited February 18, 2017 by Tim Moff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Gosh I do like those colour schemes a lot!!! The F-16 does look really cool in a green Euro colour scheme, and a Gun Pod!!! I'm in love with this build already!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Leijdens Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 This must be one of the coolest F-16's around. Looking forward to your paint job! Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabat Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Not sure if this helps, but havinga look at the walkway strips and decals on this Hasegawa kit, perhaps you could swag the bits and lengths you'll need from the Caracal sheet. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10088467 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaracalModels Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) The instructions for wing walkway boundary markings (NO STEP/WALKWAY) are right there on the last page of the instruction sheet - see instructions for Option 1. The boundary stripes themselves are simple stripes (slightly oversized in length to accommodate variations between different kits) and it should be fairly straightforward to cut and fit them on the kit as required. These lines are in the standard locations on almost every F-16. Any F-16 kit which has these markings on the decal sheet will specify location information for this. I sometimes omit these with the assumption that their locations are common knowledge for anyone who has ever built an F-16 kit, but clearly this is not valid every time. For my next F-16 sheet, I will make sure I have a diagram online and add some wording to point users to the Web site. Good luck with the build! Edited January 31, 2017 by CaracalModels 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 10 hours ago, CaracalModels said: The instructions for wing walkway boundary markings (NO STEP/WALKWAY) are right there on the last page of the instruction sheet - see instructions for Option 1. The boundary stripes themselves are simple stripes (slightly oversized in length to accommodate variations between different kits) and it should be fairly straightforward to cut and fit them on the kit as required. These lines are in the standard locations on almost every F-16. Any F-16 kit which has these markings on the decal sheet will specify location information for this. I sometimes omit these with the assumption that their locations are common knowledge for anyone who has ever built an F-16 kit, but clearly this is not valid every time. For my next F-16 sheet, I will make sure I have a diagram online and add some wording to point users to the Web site. Good luck with the build! Thanks for the explanation - I can see the no step (S37) decals - my point was that there are no indications where S30, S31, S32, S33 and S34 should go/be used ! I have used your decals loads and have nothing but good outcomes. As you have explained it is a case of cutting to shape for different builds - as feedback I would say it would have been useful to indicate which decal is for which line but may need cutting back; say S30 be used as the 2 x main lines on the wings, S33 for the horizontal line across the fuselage behind the canopy, etc, etc. I have not built an F16 since the airfix initial YF16 back in the 80's. Its not so much where the lines go, there are clearly marked - its more about suggesting which decal number should be used for which walkway with some trimming. Common sense I know! Is the website mentioned yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Have got most items I need off the sprue and started some early component building, including ordnance. 101 uses of the dining table decoration - erm whatever you do don't tell Mrs M!!!! The lines discussed with Caracal Sure I work out the best way! I always do in flight so there are often gaps in undercarriage doors - some filling to do here. Gonna go for the Gun, 2 x tanks, 2 x Mavs and 2 x AIM9s plus the 'Pave Penny' (HTS) some filling and priming next and recover a HTS from the Hase kit. Edited February 18, 2017 by Tim Moff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 the fit of those U/C doors are pretty horrible, they look way undersized. It seem like most of the time manufacturers produce models to have U/C down and the up option really isn't an up option! I have the same issue with a model I have for a forthcoming GB as well! I do like the idea of an F-16 with a Gun Pod!!! actually anything with a Gun Pod is super cool! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat911 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 On 31/01/2017 at 6:13 PM, Tim Moff said: Looks like single Mavs only. anyone know the ejector unit name? I have a TER in the kit, probably will not add the lower part as I can only see 1c Mav on in the pics. The single Maverick launcher is known as the LAU-117. Wolfpack Designs does them in resin. They are also included in the Kinetic F-16 and HobbyBoss A-10 kits. Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 On 2/2/2017 at 10:17 PM, trickyrich said: the fit of those U/C doors are pretty horrible, they look way undersized. It seem like most of the time manufacturers produce models to have U/C down and the up option really isn't an up option! I have the same issue with a model I have for a forthcoming GB as well! I do like the idea of an F-16 with a Gun Pod!!! actually anything with a Gun Pod is super cool! Yep, is poor, whatever happened to the days when both options were provided! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted February 4, 2017 Author Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) Got the grey and white primer out. Will try to start some detail painting etc next week! Edited February 18, 2017 by Tim Moff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Looks like this is coming along nicely Tim, and I do like the colour schemes that you have chosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Some detail painting etc done this week, not sure whats going on with my photobucket earlier pics... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 Got some work done, after a right old dust up with the intake assembly (I won - just!), test fitting seems fine, a gap to fill between the intake and 'belly'. Most WIPs show gaps on the wings, so more filler, cursing and fighting inbound no doubt! Bit of work to clean up the upper intake (most will be hidden!) before priming and painting and attaching. Hard to get in there on 1/72 and 1/48. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 Some bench time this weekend. Have to say the kit is living up to its reputation, fighting all the way! Cleaned up the intake (not too hard as its unseen) and primed. Got the Mr Pain Euro Grey out to paint the upper area, tought I would spray around to see how it looked. Once the intake was on, (with a trenchline between intake and belly!) I got the wings on. After a bit of fettling, removal of ejection pin marks etc, it soon became obvious the wing fit was horrific! Underside not much nicer!! Got the masked exhaust on, nose cone and got some filling done! On checking it became apparent the AIM9 outer rails were not carried (just the tank and Mavericks with AIM9s on the wing tips) So I have filled the holes in, just need sanding and maybe another pass. Plenty of filler on show! As most of the ancils, rails, tanks etc are painted as part of the Euro Cam (even the AIM9s), most of the painting will be done in one go. I have used Mr Paints paint on my Mustang and have to say it goes on reallly nicely, about 12-15 PSI, building up layers slowly. To get the black basing/mottling down to pat I think I need to invest in a Mr Airbrush PS 770 or Custom Micron CM-B 0.18MM airbrush (my Iwata Neo is 0.35mm and HP-C + is 0.3MM) - wifey will question though!!! However on this build not too much contrast is needed as the paint was not on for long. I plan to black base/prime with Mr Surfacer, but may post fade a small bit. I think the scheme will look cool! Hope fully get some done this week, got a weeks leave the next week so should break the back of both builds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex77 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 That are some seams! Good luck on this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 wow the last time I saw channels/gaps like that were on the "Deathstar"!!! Nice job filling them, how many tubes of filler did you end up using! I don't bother using the 0.4mm nozzle on my H&S, I just thin everything right down with Mr Hobby Leveler/Thinner (thank you Tony!!) and use the 0.2mm fittings. Works wonders for giving you that "patchy" finish even though it can take forever to paint some stuff....the OSA missile boat being one!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Moff Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 I'm living on the fact whatever happens EURO1 on an F16 will look cool and cover a multitude of sins!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I do agree, EURO1 and F-16's do look awesome, much better than the bland grey!! Speaking of which I do have to get back to my other F-16 project, the F-16JK, hopefully I'll get some done on her later this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Watching with interest. Another scheme I want to do in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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